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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A couple of things to add to this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Here are some notes for dxf use:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Explode all blocks – this allows text to come into VE properly<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Delete all unnecessary layers and purge the drawing<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Copy to new drawing as a block and paste/set origin at 0,0 otherwise
you’ll end up with graphics issues when the origin is a long way from
0,0.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You can also draw a single line on a new layer and then just use
that layer to create the model – this should allow construct-dxf to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For Microflo use:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Keep it simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Try not to play with the grid too much as although in theory
this should be better, invariably it makes things worse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Try and use a grid and snap to it to set the model up in the
first place so you don’t end up with lots of small slithers of grid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If it’s a complicated project, it probably needs a
complicated CFD tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> virtual-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:virtual-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>SINGH
Manjinder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 March 2009 22:52<br>
<b>To:</b> Erik Eriksson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> virtual-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Virtual-sim] Issues and dxf?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>There are couple of suggestions while using the Microflo module of
IES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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     lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>While
     importing the dxf file into IES, the dxf file should be clear, I mean to
     say to be a single line file as to avoid picking the points close to one
     another.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Try to
     use the grid for the point selection not the end point. As while using the
     program you can find a difference that while picking up a end point there
     could be a small variation in the point which will result in a very narrow
     grid and which will increase the no. of cells and that could led to a
     problem of the memory and also the convergence will not be achieved and
     end up with inappropriate results.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IES
     is simple to use for CFD as it works very well if we have a Maximum aspect
     ratio <10:1<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     is having a problem, it can’t do the internal and external
     simulation at one instance (in a single go), where as the programs like
     Phoenics (CHAM software) can do it in one go.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>May be these points help you in achieving the right results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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[mailto:erik.eriksson@white.se] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 3 March 2009 6:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SINGH Manjinder<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nouman; virtual-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Virtual-sim] Issues and dxf?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>Hi Manjinder,<br>
<br>
I tested it for a couple of years ago and my experience was that it was very
easy to use. That is normally a good thing, but when it comes to CFD programs
they tend to be very complicated and I just figured that MicroFlo therefore
couldnt be that accurate in its results. <br>
<br>
We are looking into it again and I think its brilliant that its so simple, but
the results need to be accurate (obviously). <br>
Have you found the accuracy in the results doubtful?<br>
<br>
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</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi
Erik</span><span lang=EN-AU><br>
<br>
</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Presently
I am working on the Microflo module of IES VE for a CFD analysis. What kind of
help u need??</span><span lang=EN-AU><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erik Eriksson<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, 3 March 2009 2:38 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Nouman<b><br>
Cc:</b> virtual-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [Virtual-sim] Issues and dxf?</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt'>Hi,<br>
<br>
ok, I've had some experience with dxf-imports. I did it a couple of years ago
and was quite annoyed with it. Has it been improved? <br>
What I found was that when it found a text it looked around it and if it found
walls then that was it, but since you can have different thinkness on the walls
and you need to find the outer limit of the outer walls, but VE stops at the
inner limit and the middle of the interior walls needs to be found it makes it
quite complicated to turn a normal dwg-drawing into a useful one or have you
worked out a smart method of doing this?<br>
<br>
When i was referering to reliability I was thinking of heat storage (with and
without false celings) and solar insolation on more complex surfaces etc. <br>
<br>
Have you had any experience with MicroFlo?<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
E r i k E r i k s s o n <br>
<br>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#424282'>Nouman ---2009-03-02
17:21:18---Hi, yes dxf files can be imported in VE and can save tons of time in
drawing the building. Please ta</span><span lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Hi,<br>
yes dxf files can be imported in VE and can save tons of time in drawing the
building. Please take the following steps before you import any dxf into VE:</span><span
lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Remove in dxf file everything except:
        walls,windows, doors and labels</span><span lang=EN-AU
        style='font-size:13.5pt'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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        auto;mso-list:l2 level4 lfo6'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>When you are importing the dxf. make
        sure, that the appropriate scale has been input.</span><span
        lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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        auto;mso-list:l2 level4 lfo6'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The trick to find out scale of the
        drawing is, to measure a door, typically a single door is 1m, now let
        say the measurement comes upto be 10m it means its 1:10 scale. etc </span><span
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The calculation of VE
is reliable. Only that the dynamic calculation gives us actualy true loads
which some times differ from ASHRAE loads. The reason is ASHRAE does all its
loads on a particualr design day. Whereas VE picks up the worse case scanario
for the building. VE also has the capability to somply calculate ASHRAE loads. </span><span
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Best Regards;</span></i><i><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:24.0pt;color:blue'><br>
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</span><b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Erik
Eriksson <erik.eriksson@white.se><b><br>
To:</b> virtual-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, March 2, 2009 8:40:08 AM<b><br>
Subject:</b> [Virtual-sim] Issues and dxf?</span><span lang=EN-AU
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Hi everyone!<br>
<br>
I just joined this mail list and I'm curious about how you use this program and
if you have found any issues. <br>
I use it extensivly and I have a few issues with it and I'm afraid that some of
the calculation methods arent that reliable. <br>
<br>
I've heard that many users import their geometry by using dxf-files. I've tried
this, but I've found it somewhat complicated. <br>
Do you have any smart methods? What program do you use to create the dxf-files?
Autocad?<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
E r i k E r i k s s o n <br>
<br>
Energy specialist and project manager<br>
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