[UA] RE: Graffiti artists and a charging scheme

[Ja ke]

I know what you mean about it seeming very archetypal, I keep trying to come 
up with an archetype that covers the broad range of stereotypes, but not 
quite managing it (most stereotype involve not appearing very intelligent 
and violent/dishonest... but that's the only real connections between them 
all, and The Violent Two Faced Fool just seems like a freakish thing)

The other thing is that stereotypes are by their nature created by outsiders 
to describe the groups in question and are either totally wrong, barely 
accurate or only true because of massive society wide racism making it so. 
And most stereotypes are negative, which leaves the whole concept 
paradoxical enough to make more sense as a school, also, different racial 
stereotypes would walk the paths of different archetypes, if they were 
avatars at all (for instance, a pimp could be a stereotype magician, and an 
avatar of the True King (even a Demagogue), while street thugs could be 
anything from Warriors to Masterless Men, or a well respected lieutenant for 
a japanese or italian crime family could be a faithful servant)

There's also the slight difficulty of why would some one have ascended 
following an archetype that requires you to be hated and descriminated 
against unless you were getting somehting out of it or were forced into it, 
it's like that old question "if being gay were a matter of choice, why would 
someone choose to be descriminated against and hated?".

And what are the symbols, the masks and the suspected avatars in history for 
The Stereotype? it's got a postmodernistic edge to it, a solid paradox but 
it's also extremly archetypal without having enough of the prerequisites 
that are neccesary for an archetype, I eventually had to just call it a 
postmodern archetype school to get something on it done, and to stop my head 
exploding from the  circular reasoning.

>From: Mattias Östklint <mattias.ostklint at electrolux.se>
>Reply-To: The Unknown Armies RPG Mailing List <ua at lists.unknown-armies.com>
>To: ua at lists.unknown-armies.com
>Subject: [UA] RE: Graffiti artists and a charging scheme
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:51:13 +0100
>
>A school around stereotypes? Hmmm... Every time *I* hear "stereotype" I
>tend to to think in terms of archetypes (wich might as well be called
>stereotypes, ti's the same thing really) rather than magick schools. Also
>the charging and taboo structure makes it really easy - pretty much
>neccesary actually - to follow some stereotype/archeotype, and I feel that
>schools and paths shouldn't come in "matched pairs, get the whole set!".
>Makes the players life to easy.
>
>Mattias Östklint             tel:   036-146856
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>----- Message from "Ja ke" <high_healedblues at hotmail.com> on Sun, 27 Feb
>2005 05:47:30 +0000 -----
>
>       To: ua at lists.unknown-armies.com
>
>  Subject: [UA] Graffiti artists and a
>           charging scheme
>
>
>
>Oh and while I'm at it, does this seem like a decent charging structure for
>
>a racial stereotype based magick school to you peeps? (is the sig too
>difficult/too hard to portray and work within the gaming system?):
>
>Paradox: You gain power enforcing a negative stereotype that isn't really
>representative of either you or your ethnic group, and empower yourself
>while at the same time negatively affecting your community.
>
>Generate minor charge: Cause someone to make a stress check or set off a
>persons passion stimuli in a way that reinforces in that person's mind your
>
>chosen negative stereotype.
>
>Generate a Significant charge: Cause someone to become a racist or
>discriminate against your 'kind of people' who didn't before hand.
>
>Generate a major: be the direct cause of an entire large community
>attacking
>or ostracising 'your type of people' in such a way that it causes many of
>the affected group to die or be killed.
>
>Taboo: A Playa taboos whenever someone challenges their behaviour in
>someway
>and gets away with it and also when they are seen acting in a manner that
>doesn't fit the stereotype they are supposed to be portraying
>
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