[UA] Re: UA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357

José Luis Nunes Porfírio heinrichkornelius at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 2 02:09:19 PDT 2004


> We are, in short, really easy to make into all the worst 
> aspects of the Occult Underground. Not the psycho on the 
> street, but the friendly neighbor who secretly does rituals 
> with his cult while offering to mow your lawn. It' s 
> Rosmary's Baby time, all the time.

That's soo cool! I'll have to talk to one of the elders the next time
they come knocking my door - there's quite a few Mormons in Lisbon,
Portugal, nowadays (where I live). My very catholic brother even has a
copy of the book of Mormon - they tried to convert each other, my
brother and the 25-year-old Elder, and ended up good friends.

That you say all those things about your own church does you credit,
friend. I always liked the self-criticism permeating American society.
Sometimes I think I should move there. I've always considered New
England - but now Utah seems to have a charm all its own.

Cheers,

Zé

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ua-bounces at lists.unknown-armies.com] On Behalf Of Brand Robins
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:43 AM
> To: ua at lists.unknown-armies.com
> Subject: [UA] Re: UA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357
> 
> 
> > Why can't Mormons send flowers?
> 
> Because Masons can't send flowers, and Mormons are just a new 
> branch of Masonry?
> 
> 
> 
> (http://www.cephasministry.com/mormons_masonry.html
> 
> http://www.lds-mormon.com/masonry.shtml
> 
> http://www.lds-mormon.com/morgan2.shtml
> 
> http://www.lds-mormon.com/mormonamerica.shtml)
> 
> 
> 
> Ya know, I'm a Mormon, and reading this stuff always makes me 
> want to run a UA game around the early church, with the last 
> authentic thaumaturges getting into wars with early 
> cliomancers and competing cults trying to modernize and 
> project power...
> 
> 
> 
> It'd be glorious. Plus, I'd get to play Joseph Smith with a 
> Thaumaturgy of 90% having secret occult wars with John Tyler 
> -- who as we all know was an avatar of the Two Faced Man who 
> arranged for the execution of Harrison and would later follow 
> his avatar into joining the Confederacy as it rebelled 
> against the Union he had once been president of, and ended up 
> as a supporter for the slavery that Joseph Smith had opposed.
> 
> 
> 
> As for the general applicability of Mormons as villains, it 
> makes perfect sense - not because we're exotic, but because 
> we're not. Mormons are the friendly, clean, honest neighbor 
> who smiles at you and helps you move in and brings you 
> brownies - but who goes to secret rituals at a temple that 
> you can't go into, has a church that takes 1/10th their money 
> and won't let them drink coffee, and has a history that is 
> murky at best. We're almost like you, then aren't. We have 
> scientists and engineers and other rational men of science 
> forming a preponderance of our leadership - yet these men of 
> science will speak of "being guided by the spirit" with the 
> same earnest practicality with which they speak of building a 
> bridge, or a Patriot missile. (Did you know a good chunk of 
> the Skunk Works and China Lake guys are Mormon?) They're 
> almost modern rational American peoples, with big middle 
> American families and solid common sense, but then they 
> belong to a weird, secretive religion that sometimes kidnaps 
> little girls.
> 
> 
> 
> We are, in short, really easy to make into all the worst 
> aspects of the Occult Underground. Not the psycho on the 
> street, but the friendly neighbor who secretly does rituals 
> with his cult while offering to mow your lawn. It' s 
> Rosmary's Baby time, all the time.
> 
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