[UA] occult paraphernalia

[Mathieu Laine]

why was i under the impression that orthodox jews, like orthodox christians,
could not participate in such things as rpgs?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <mdinowit at i-2000.com>
To: <ua at lists.uchicago.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: [UA] occult paraphernalia


> ok, I'll do this again. Jews (like me) tend to use the spelling Kabbalah
and when you see that in a book there's a good chance your seeing something
Jewish. Hermetics tend to use the q spelling because they have such a love
for the germans. Lets me explain that. The first letter of Kabbalah is a
Kuf. As this has basically the same sound as a Kaf, linguists decided to
transliterate the Kaf as a K and the Kuf as a Q. This has led to people
stating up and down (usually non-Hebrew speaking people) that the word is
pronounced with the Q making a Qua sound rather than a Ka sound. Loooooong
fight between those who use and live the language and those who just use it
to describe their occult tradition.
> Cabala is used by some hermetics and is usually seen as being of the
Christian school. Don't get me started on that either.
> And yes, I'm an Orthodox Jew, I read and speak Hebrew and study
traditional Kabbalah as well as know some of the hermetic tradition (which I
don't follow).
> Oy again.
>
> At 09:10 AM 3/6/02, you wrote:
> >Gah, it's translated from Hebrew, in the name of Eris.  It doesn't matter
how we spell it, we're still not using the original form.
> >
> >Being something of a chaos magician myself, I'm tempted to join the list,
but honestly I think it would be more annoying then it's worth.
> >
> >Saul
> >
> >
> >>From: "Doug Stalker" <doug at infinitemonkeyproductions.net>
> >>Reply-To: ua at lists.uchicago.edu
> >>To: <ua at lists.uchicago.edu>
> >>Subject: RE: [UA] occult paraphernalia
> >>Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:53:06 +1000
> >>
> >>
> >>It's a list for pratitioners of Chaos Magick (or magic, magik, or
whatever)
> >>called the zee-list
> >>
> >>
> >>details at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4052/zcintr.htm ,
> >>including how to subscribe (write to an email address and ask) as well
as
> >>plenty of fun links.
> >>archive at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4052/
> >>
> >>
> >>It has a lot of crap, since it's an unmoderated list full of chaotes,
but
> >>there is also a lot of useful information to be mined from it -
especially
> >>ideas for roleplaying games.  It also features such fun events as the
flame
> >>war over the proper spelling of
> >>Kabalah/Cabalah/Qabalah/Quabalah/QBL/whatever.  It's like a large
clueless
> >>cabal that has a little knowledge of tilts, but no idea why they work.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2002 6:58 PM
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> >>>
> >>> Doug Stalker wrote:
> >>> > Here's a message from another mailing list - if you ever need
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> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> may I just ask, what kind of list that is _you_ are on?
> >>>
> >>> *curiosity overwhelming me*
> >>>
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> >>>
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