[UA] Pop Culture Update

Tim Toner thanatos at interaccess.com
Sun Apr 28 22:24:50 PDT 2002


Damn, dude.  That made my brain hurt!

But in a good way.

I have a friend who's OTO, and all of his anecdotes (the few he will share,
that is), screams of the worst cliches of the OU.  He's forever pumping ME
for information, for my insight into this concept or that phenomena, because
he's convinced that the Truth remains occluded, and only the natural forces
of the universe, embodied by mistranslations and misunderstandings, can
reveal them.  There is in fact a large following of people (large, of
course, being relative...probably three) in his group who positively eat up
the Wescott stuff.  And Alan Moore himself wrote in the various annotations
to 'From Hell' that the best Ripper story exists somewhere between what can
be proved as fact, and what can by utterly refuted.

I myself, a Catholic, don't mind when people take a dump on my dogma,
because, well, it's a big God up there, and He can handle it.  So no one
ever uses 'karma,' out of context, a far more egregious faux pas, IMO?


----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Menzi" <menzi212 at yahoo.com>
To: "UA list" <ua at lists.uchicago.edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: [UA] Pop Culture Update


> >>>
> One line specifically says "10 and not 11". Another
> line speaks about the Sefirot in pairs such as a start
> of time and an end of time.
> <<<
>      Interestingly, this may have been a symtpom of a
> switch between base 11 and base 10 conceptuallization
> of math.  The number 10 is found in older texts quite
> often, with some mystical significance (ten
> generations between the patriarchs, ten plagues, etc.)
>  Well, check this:
>
>      I'm sure you are familiar with the way the digits
> of any multiple of 9 will add up to 9.  Well this is a
> trait of being the last digit below the number
> system's base.  (Just trust me on this one.)  Using
> base 11, the number 10 has that property.  There are
> other indications of this, such as the hyperbole in
> Genesis 4:24 in which Lamech murder gets him a curse
> 11 times as bas as Cain's (an order of magnitude in
> base 11).
>
>      My father, who translates this stuff, has noticed
> that later kaballists describe the Sefirot in a way
> that suggest they assimilated the concept of Zero
> (thought to originate in India's buddhist tradition),
> representing not the numbers 1-10, but 0-9.  This also
> suggests a shift to base 10 way of thinking, in which
> the number 9 has that self-consistant "rock of ages"
> trait.
>
>      BTW, this is the kind of worldview shange that
> would make it impossible for moderns to use ancient
> magics.
>
>
> Regards,
> - R. Menzi
>
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