[UA] Old groups and power

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>So your basically saying that there's some point in time that divides the 
>'old' magic from the new? So a modern Jew studying the lore of his 
>tradition has no chance of doing what his teachers could do? There's a 
>fault in logic there. If a modern person, no matter how modern is studying 
>a tradition that has existed unbroken for centuries then why would it be 
>expected that it wouldn't work for him anymore?
>Is it that the stratosphere is now modern and rejects all older magics? So 
>that means at some point all of those tribes we know nothing about in South 
>America have just up and lost their magic even though they have no 
>connection at all to the 'modern world'.
>It just lacks something in my opinion.

See, i don't think that the old ways need be gone, sure, there's a bunch of 
explanations for why they're still there...
but then why not say, play Mage Darkly?  Most of the "old forms" of magic - 
*literally* unbroken chains  of Lore stretching back generations - probably 
have a few safe, performable rituals, or have been using Tilts without 
calling them that, or have "authentic thaum."
But, then again, part of why I like UA is that really, there are no 
fireballs, there are no "pockets of determined resistance," there's the Art, 
certainly.  But its living and breathing, and humanity may influence it it 
sure doesn't control it, and right now the Art is into postModernism.
  My next UA game is going to be about the failure of everything that isn't 
actually an adept of one of the modern schools (starting with AT and 
Mechanomancy) or an avatar, as the...well, as the stuff that happens 
happens. I'm not running it yet.
Also, many "ancient traditions" probably produce a large quantity of low 
level avatars, not adepts of modern or ancient schools per se.
Patrick


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