[UA] [UA]Goddess dicotomy

[Kali Magdalene]

Epoch wrote:
> 
> Well, Deirdre is /obviously/ right that, in canonical UA, "old
> style" celtic pagans (there aren't any, are there?  I mean, I thought that
> we don't even know much about their religion) would be powerless or
> near-powerless.  That's kinda the point.  All of those old-style mystical
> traditions lost a lot of power in the Industrial Revolution, still more in
> the turn from modernism to post-modernism, and were dealt their final blow
> with the Ascension of the Naked Goddess.

I don't mean "Celtic Pagans." However, I do mean "old style
goddess-worshippers" and some do exist (the Thuggee cult apparently
still exists in India, for example).

> Whether new-style Wiccans would have any more power than old-style ones is
> a more thorny question.  I'm not sure that new-style Wiccanism /does/ fit
> in with dipsomancy and pornomancy.  I mean, granted that it's new, which
> gives it some help in the UA cosmology.  But it also seems, at least to
> this not-very-conservant observer, to be trying to mimic a notion of
> what's old.  I'm not sure that that gets us anywhere.

Well, most of Wicca is not involved directly or indirectly in the Occult
Underground, but the people of power of pagan persuasion who *are*
involved, are far more likely to be of the modern pagan variety (and
note that "Wiccan" != "Crystal Waving New Ager" by necessity, but I
suppose it's okay to cast aspersions on a religion because it's new and
claims roots in older stuff).
 
> Fundamentally, when people used to propose new kinds of schools of magic
> twice a week to this list, one seminal question was, "What's the
> Paradox?"  So, what's the paradox of new-style Wiccanism?

Well, I think I'd start with the casual assurance many people hold that
it's bunk.

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