[UA] Re: Emoticons/Linguistics
Patrick None
deadairis at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 23 19:10:27 PDT 2002
> Care to expand? It's been a long time since I read METAPHORS WE
> LIVE BY.
>
> Also read a decent book by George called MORAL POLITICS: WHAT
> CONSERVATIVES KNOW THAT LIBERALS DON'T. Interesting concepts in
> it, and it's not a screed.
Moral Politics was great, but typical of his (IMHO) problem in his other
work - setting up straw dummies to attack. Try Women, Fire, and Dangerous
Things ( which are all members of a noun category in a specific language,
related as in English we might group "motion verbs" [although that really
works better in, I believe, more Latinate languages]).
On the other hand, Moral Politics was really, really great. I read it just
post 9/11 doing a little research for research on the Bush vs Bush
comparison of their two Great Desert Campaigns, and their lead in speechs,
which ended up being too offbeat to write for school but really interesting.
Anyways, more on topic, when you deal with him as a linguist, well, he's
the leader of the camp of syntacticians that has kept Chomsky on the ropes
for 40 years. You can't do linguistics without loving or hating G. Lakoff.
However, he's also instrumental in cognitive science, and any errors
regarding describing what "objectivism" means in WFDT are blown away by the
leaps he's willing to make from the associated fields of cognitive science
(neurobiology and computer science in particular) in order to "prove" his
theories right.
I'd have to get my neurobio-focus cognitive science major to fill you in on
the exacts, since he loses me pretty fast, but i'm sure he'd be happy to if
you'd like.
>
> > I'm finishing my linguistics degree at UC Berk, so.
>
> I've got a buddy doing a dual masters-doctorate compsci thang
> out there.
>
Deeam. When I'm back in town I'll wave in at Soda hall at your poor,
doomed, high-income or high-income to be friend.
> I have powers.
I think I met them at a bar once. A blonde and a redhead, right? The
blonde wears red and the redhead doesn't wear much?
> Alas and alack. Must make for interesting department meetings...
> and if that's not a UA campaign frame (Linguistics Dept of the
> Occult), given what we've been talking about in this thread, I
> don't know what is.
ohhh.
With George as representative of the strong, old fashioned, Words Define
Power type, with Robin his subtle foil (give the Language War a read. Its
very, very fluffy but neat), simply undercutting his right to claim what the
words mean.
Ohhh.
Patrick
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