[UA] CotNG: Why no Avatars (was a jolly good fight)

[Timothy Toner]

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From: "Greg Stolze" <holycrow at mindspring.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [UA] CotNG: Why no Avatars (was a jolly good fight)


>
> >You cannot have her. You may experience her when
> >you're not really thinking about it, but as soon as
> >realization happens, you're left high and dry. Most
> >Avatars never thus get beyond their first channel
> >before being drop-kicked by Her Bitchiness.
>
> That's spectacularly tidy, but not much fun for whomever gets to write the
> NG book.  ("Yeah, you get to write up the NG archetype, but it's pretty
> much academic.")
>
> More than the WECHBY (which was really just Eugene's theory, even within
> the canon), I'm wondering if the NG isn't The Object of Desire.  That's a
> little broader and might provide a little more room for interpretation
(and
> might make it more fun to play).

Well, vibing off a recent post, with 333 archetypes, some are gonna just
SUCK.  What I especially like about TWECHBY is that it's a neat insight into
male-female relationships.  I have a theory that just as a guy never really
gets over his first love, every guy has his own, personal WECHBY.  I
remember getting drunk at an alumni reunion down at my fraternity, and
passing around the idea as a philosophical trope.  I started with mine, and
one by one, we shared our own unique version of her.  Some had to be gently
prompted that they did indeed possess one, and one person got a pass, since
most of the people in the room knew that his WECHBY was currently engaged to
another person in the room.  So I think there's room for a generic Object of
Desire, and TWECHBY.  The latter is just more frustratingly specific.  I
don't think you have to worry about channels, since I'm sure there's no rush
to get the higher channels of The Guy With 11 Items In The 10 Items Or Less
Express Lane, even though there seems to be a lot of his avatars around.

Here's a stumper.  We've discussed Archetypes whose MO involve a finality
that would preclude them from ascending (The Martyr being an obvious one).
What about someone who embodied that ideal in the public consciousness only
after his death, when the news reports fed the detalis of his existence down
the throats of 280 million Americans?  Is it just "sucks to be you," or is
there a special dispensation for people who IC the hard way?


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