[UA] Greetings
Ysidro
ysidro at bellatlantic.net
Thu May 17 12:02:44 PDT 2001
Nick Wedig wrote:
>
> >> Funny... I thought they were a bunch of women channeling a really negative version of the Flying Woman.
> >>
> >
> >By making other peoples heads fly? :)
>
> Basically, the worst, most man-hating group of feminists imaginable.
>
Oh, my mistake. I thought you were referring to the beckies not the
castrading-horde. It's an interesting take on the Flying Woman although
I'd make only one of them actually be the avatar. Then again, if they
were all avatars pushing a new take on the archetype...
Hmm, the Flying Woman is self-reliant and makes her own rules. Perhaps
the group is (conciously or not) tweaking the archtype towards "women
who don't follow any rules but their own consensus" as opposed to "woman
who doesn't follow socities rules." That is, instead of a single woman
against society it's a group of women against a specific view of society
: "The Patriarchy".
> >> >Check Lawyers, Guns, and Money if you have it.
> >>
> >> Which raises a question I've had for a while: What's the deal with Dion Isaacs? If he is, in fact, Dionysus, then were the other Olympic gods real, or what? What other explanations could you give?
> >>
> >> A high level avatar (what archetype?)
> >> One of the Cruel Ones?
> >> An IC member walking the earth?
> >> The product of a play by Euripides and a Bibliomantic major charge?
> >> Just a weird guy?
> >>
> >
> >Renunciated former IC member? Somehow I doubt there was a Teetotaler
> >archtype though.
> >
> >The *Original* Dipsomancer, still kept alive by powerful magics. Hey, I
> >like this one...
>
> mmmm... interesting. I suppose it works for the magickal realm (immortality is fairly big and showy, as far as magick goes). The question then is whether he started in ancient Greece, or whether he's more recent (which is connected with how ol the school is; I don't imagine it that old). If the latter, why the other bits (perhaps he just likes to pretend he's Dionysus, or perhaps he's gone mad and really thinks he is).
>
Dipsomancy could be as old as alcohol. It would have gone through
several changes throughout the ages. Dion might literally be a
historical Dionysus immortalized in legend. By keeping a close-knit
following he maintains the existence of his own particular brand of
dipsomancy.
Of course, he could also be a demon and not the semi-immortal body that
I originally suggested.
Then again, maybe he's just a drunk old codger and the calls all the
girls "Becky" because that was the name of his long lost love. It's not
his fault the brew is a bit potent and riles the gals up.
> >Personally, he's one of those guys I probably wouldn't explain. It's
> >easier to give players a taste of the weird if you don't have an
> >explanation.
>
> I myself would like to know what's going on, even (especially?) if the players never do. One so that I can keep some consistency in playing such a character (especially if he were to be very important to an adventure) and secondly so that I can make obscure hints they'll never figure out but might be able to recognize as such. (references to Orpheus and Zagreus, and more obscure than that). other reasons too, which I can't quite spell out clearly.
>
I agree and disagree. On one hand it's nice to know for the reasons you
said. On the other, by keeping the truth unknown to even yourself you
leave things open for the player's paranoid ramblings.
Personally, I'm a completist and like to know the truth. I've just been
think about the idea of keeping it hidden from yourself and seeing what
happens. Too bad I don't have any games running to actually try it
with.
Greg
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Penn-Ohio Historical European Martial Arts Society
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~ysidro/pohemas.html
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