[UA] Risking it - Sunbjectivity or objectivity?

[Nick Wedig]

>Isn't this covered in the rulebook, on page 136? There's a discussion about
>how magick operates at least partially on subjective meaning, partially on
>'objective reality'. An example is given that if a pornomancer performs a NG
>sex ritual that she believes has never been performed before - but she's
>_wrong_ - then she doesn't get a major charge.
>
>By the same logic, if an entropomancer performs an action that he thinks is
>risky - but unbeknownst to him, it isn't, because the gun is empty or
>whatever - he gets no charge.

Thwe problem is that the example in the book does not deal with chance.  Chance and luck are concepts that are basically subjective.  For anything on the normal level of human action (not quantum physics and the like) everything is determined by some physical principles and previous actions.  When I speak of the chances of getting the bullet in Russian roullette, whether I get it or not is determined by how hard I spin the chamber, friction and other factors that the bodybag can't consciously calculate.  There's not really any undetermined (ie, random) factors there, only unknown ones.  The same is true of the sealed gun.  It may or may not be loaded, but that's determined by unknown and uncontrolled factors.

Mr. Teapot
inherently subjective

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