[UA] Archetype complexes (Was: Kevin Matchstick)

Peter Hindman strev at arches.uga.edu
Wed Jun 20 10:43:53 PDT 2001


--- Timothy Toner <thanatos at interaccess.com> wrote:

> What brings this fully on-topic is an idea I had a
> while ago, concerning dual archetypes.  While it's
> fairly sensible for there to be dual archetypes
> (the lovers, the twins, etc.), what about certain
> archetypes bringing about archetypes in others?
> For instance, the True King tends to create a
> Necessary Servant, and a Hero brings about a
> Villain.

   What I want to say here is vague; I've been thinking about this issue
for a long time but haven't come up with any good ideas...but it might be
interesting to compare the way archetypes work in UA with the way
characters can embody Heroes in Hero Wars/Glorantha.  There are a lot of
similarities, but Glorantha also contains, for instance, 'archetypes' of
myths (Heroquests) and 'archetypes' of associations (e.g. Orlanth's Ring).
I know that UA deliberately and forcefully rejects modernist forms of
occultism and fantasy, and the UA cosmology is sharply individualist, but
I'm still interested in trying to construct analogues of myths-as-rituals
and archetypal groups.

   Okay, to be more concrete, there are already elements of these ideas in
the setting.  For instance, charging up, for a Pornomancer, amounts in
Hero Wars terms to a minor Heroquest.

   I gotta go; discuss.



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