[UA] Cultures in animals

[Nick Wedig]

>> To put it more simply, a dog can be a good dog or a bad dog, but you don't talk of a dog being ethical or unethical.  They lack the grasp of abstractions.
>
>But then you're mixing your metaphors. If you make abstractions concrete by bringing to life the IC, then animals ought to be able to interact. I think the IC's barred them out of the same indefensible arrogance you use to bar animals from public places. You have an
>extremely inflated idea of the importance of souls, or self-awareness, or what have you.

So what you're saying is that dogs can't be let in because, some time ago, humans beat them into the IC and haven't let them in since?  It's plausible, but I think the alternative is also and is better.

Dogs can't understand abstractions.  You ascend by being a physical embdiment of an abstraction.  If you and your peers can't conceive of abstractions, then you can't embody and abstraction, and so can't ascend.

Mr. Teapot
dog spelled backwards

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