[UA] Cannibal Avatar?

[Gareth Hanrahan]

On Friday 01 June 2001 08:00, you wrote:
> > > I'd say just another take on the Fool, but then I don't think
> >
> > we needed the
> >
> > > Trickster as a distinct archetype (nor True King, for that matter).
> >
> > There seems to be quite a bit of space "up there" if it takes 333
> > archetypes
> > to fill a Clergy. Even if 200+ of the archetypes are ones like
> > the WECHBY,
> > which don't show up clearly in any "occult" literature and are hard to
> > identify in the mass of humanity until they're pointed out to you....that
> > still leaves around 100 "mystic" ones like the Trickster and the Fool. I
> > think we've room for a bit of overlap.
>
> I'd love them all to be non-literature...it seem the more we expand them,
> the more we get away from the design concept of "not Foucault's Pendulum".
> I mean, the Trickster is just so very...well...dull!
>
> Have people -ever- embodied the Trickster?  I mean, it's always some
> fox-God, or Loki, or Merlin or some other shapeshifting God-prophet freak.
> Is there anyone who actually says "I'm going to help people along by making
> them look like absolute asses, you better believe it bub!" and
> actually -does- it? 

Comedians might qualify, mocking politicians and public figures in the hope 
of provoking better behaviour...(pass those special EZ-Grasp straws, would 
you...)

> I like the WECHBY, it's a cool social comentary wrapped in a great game
> concept.  The Hero isn't.  The Dark Stalker isn't.  You see my direction
> here?  I think we are in danger of blanding the game out by brining in too
> much Campbellian, Jungian and (damn, the guy who wrote "The Hero")ian
> baggage.  

Oh I agree that when someone comes up with a wonderful archetype that makes 
you slap your head and go "yes, I know that sort of person, I've known them 
for years but I've never thought of them like that, oh wow"...then that's 
cool. 

However....I do like dragging the old ideas into the modern day. I like 
having pathetic, out-of-date, lost True Kings and Questing Knights wandering 
around a world that's passed them by. I think UA needs some "old" stuff to 
constrast all the new...

YMMV. 
>I say NO NEW ARCHETYPES THAT DON'T CONTAIN A COOL TWIST!
I'd say "more that do", but yeah....

Gar

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