[UA] Thomas Jefferson as Clinton proxy?

[R. Menzi]

>>>
Here's my UA idea: can you use a dead person as a
proxy? In this case, you have Cliton apologists
defending his dalliance with Lewinsky by drawing the
comparison to Jefferson.
<<<
     Appologists?  It's interesting that public
opinion can be made to find personal matters require
appologies but significant conflicts of interest,
graft and the use of official power for personal gain
do not seem to raise the same degree of distaste as a
hummer.  (or rather, a "Lewinski", SP?)

     The kind of severe distortion of significance
that occured in real life should have been worse (if
it could have been) in UA.  I also think that there
was some Cliomantic work involved, seeing as the
reactions were never warrented before or since by
issues that are, at their heart, far more significant.
 People just started to hate the man, beyond all
reasonable cause.

     (Before this is taken as a partisan statement, I
am officially part of the Apathy party, which
encourages it's members not to bother with federal
level politics because it's really not about actual
citizen anyway.  Not having voted either way, ever,
never having supported either side, I have no vested
interest except for a few complaints about using my
taxes to make a certain dedicated lawyer alot of money
while unnecessary revelations convinced me I'd be
better off leaving the country and avoiding TV in
general... but they still make me pay my damn taxes,
even living overseas.)



>>>
The proxy connection is strengthened by his name:
William Jefferson Clinton.
<<<
     That's the contextual connection, but this is
PoMo proxihood, so lets get a little more
decontextualized with this.  I say he ties in with the
gunslinger vigilante vs. the long arm of the Law.  The
tie in is like this: William for the "Billy the Kid"
connection; and the truly PoMo bit with "Clinton" and
it's connection with Mr. Eastwood with all his old
Western and "lawman above the law" connotations.

     The drive against him was not about what he did -
it far beyond any reasonable proportion.  The entire
situation works better as social psychodrama of the
the solidification of law and order (with the
appropriate growth of corruption among the "law"
during the aftermath).  The president screwing around
while presiding over unheard of prosperity was Dirty
Harry's disregard for proper procedure, whatever the
effectiveness of his tactics.  There was a distaste
against them.

     In those same years Amnesty International would
issue reports against the NYC police department for
its human rights abuses and Demato ~{#(~}a man whom
few agreed with on policies, but everyone had to admit
that he got things done~{#)~} would lose his seat in
the Senate to a upstart Democrat.  WJC's above the law
aspect was further enhancesd by the name "Bill," which
built upon the Eastwood connection to make him (on a
psychic level) seem to be the ultimate outlaw lawman
(the Kid), considering that at the time (and more
importantly, in the popular mind) the "Law" was all
about having guns and shooting first - which makes
Billy a lawman abusing his powers over the lives and
deaths of the citizenry.



>>>
You've actually got a few different factions playing
the field: the conservatives who deny Jefferson's
infidelities, the PC crowd who condemn Jefferson along
with Clinton, and the moderate Clinton fans who
absolve both with a sweeping "Hey, everybody's human."
<<<
     And those who think congress should have better
ways to spend it's time and our money... surprizing
the way that view is gaining popularity among
anti-clinton nuts (it really was a visceral, not
logical crusade against the man) now that some of
their side has a fully documented case of blatent
conflict of interest and abuse of power for personal
gain.

     Also, not to put too fine a point on it, but
everyone is human.  I thought our country was crazy,
so I got out.  Now I see the double standards when the
shoe's on the other foot and I think we're just petty
and gullible.  I much prefer to blame it on a grand UA
psychodrama, the parts performed on a
national/transnational stage.  (If it wasn't
transnational, why the hell was everyone so damn
interested, either way?)



>>>
Maybe you could basically "ground" yourself by
proxying to a dead person, and become immune to most
magicks. The spell just ends up trying to 
affect the empty psychic space where the person used
to be when they were alive.
<<<
     I'd say that the really excessive and unnecessary
shit that BJC was put through would have had some
cliomantic causes in a UA world, which argues very
well against this sort of protection... also, the
practice would have huge segments of the population
rendered magically untouchable because they were named
after their dead uncle or aunt or grandparent or
whatever, with the blood relation and potential family
resemblence finishing the hermetic seal around the
mason jar of shit I don't think would work out....
that or every adept with half a brain would have their
named changed to match whatever relative they most
closely resemble.



Regards,
- R. Menzi

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