[UA] UA unintenionally sexist? (LONG!)

[Will]

Patrick O'Duffy <redfern at thehub.com.au> a écrit :
>
> You mean, like the way people on this list instantly disagreed with Jo's
> opinion and dismissed her objections because she "just doesn't get it"?

*sigh* maybe a little too much championing here, no?

"<lawyer> I know the judge said "objection not valid" but it doesn't mean
that I wasn't right! Actually I'm sure he has a personal problem with me
and he's trying to silence me and... [gurglgl]"

> This is discussion, not a fight; I don't think anyone is interested in
> denying the other side their voice.  As I've said, I _don't_ agree with
> Joanna's argument; I don't think UA qualifies as a 'sexist' game.  But I also
> think it's a topic worthy of exploration and discussion, which is why I'm
> doign my best to champion the cause of someone I disagree with.

Well, honestly, I don't think this is a topic really worth discussing (then why
not just let you discuss it and lurk? :).

UA seems to be some kind of reflection of the real world, with an emphasis on
trash, disgust, despise, desperation, whatever. In this way, it is sexist, cos
the real world is. So they could have tried to work out a politically correct
game, and then they would really have missed their point.

> And this isn't something that's worth trying to overcome?  It's not a _good_
> thing to question our assumptions, our biases out positive and negative
> prejudices?
> 
> Humans beings are intrinsically flawed (fuck knows I am); that's not a good
> excuse for leaving one's life unexamined.

I mean, maybe J&G higher purpose in life wasn't to write the perfect non-sexist
game. Somehow I tend to disagree with people who consider UA's not sexist. I
think that's right, UA is sexist. But that's an intrinsic "value" it has, that
cannot be changed. But OTOH it's totally normal. The concept of the game is
basically flawed toward some kind of male standards, or at least standards
usually linked to men.

If you watch _Fight Club_ or read _American Psycho_, it's bound to be violent.
If you read a book about "Armies", it's somehow bound to be sexist.

Just my .02$
Will

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