[UA] UA unintenionally sexist? (LONG!)

[Patrick O'Duffy]

Will wrote:

> > You mean, like the way people on this list instantly disagreed with Jo's
> > opinion and dismissed her objections because she "just doesn't get it"?
>
> *sigh* maybe a little too much championing here, no?

It's possible.  Hard for me to say.  Especially since I've had four pints of
Kilkenny since writing that line.
Are you implying some sort of emotional connection between myself and Joanna Hart?
If so, you're wrong.

> "<lawyer> I know the judge said "objection not valid" but it doesn't mean
> that I wasn't right! Actually I'm sure he has a personal problem with me
> and he's trying to silence me and... [gurglgl]"

I have no personal problems or agendas against _anyone_ on this list.  Let me make
that clear.

> Well, honestly, I don't think this is a topic really worth discussing (then why
> not just let you discuss it and lurk? :).

Well, yes.
Hey, if no-one here wants to discuss it, I'll be quiet.  I admit to being
fascinated by gender and sexism issues; perhaps I'm getting too keen on this
discussion.

> Somehow I tend to disagree with people who consider UA's not sexist. I
> think that's right, UA is sexist. But that's an intrinsic "value" it has, that
> cannot be changed.

I disagree.  I think UA touches on gender/sex issues, but it isn't 'sexist'; it
doesn't treat women in a different manner than it treats men.

> But OTOH it's totally normal. The concept of the game is
> basically flawed toward some kind of male standards, or at least standards
> usually linked to men.

Which, I think, is the exact same point that Jo Hart is trying to make.

> If you watch _Fight Club_ or read _American Psycho_, it's bound to be violent.

Or vice versa.  Or both.

--
Patrick O'Duffy, Brisbane, Australia

Sumo is the most perfect of sports.  It has elegance, ceremony, danger,
art, speed, and, most important, two fat bastards smacking the shit out
of each other.

 - Spider Jerusalem, TRANSMETROPOLITAN #26



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