[UA] Cliomantic Election Possibilities

Steve Dustin yetiseti at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 9 13:01:49 PST 2000


If certain things happen right, the next presidency might become real 
fertile gaming material.

I'll let you know what I'm thinking right off the bat: I believe this 
election has a few too many parallels to the 1960 American election. Of 
course, I'm sure somebody whose more historically adept will mop the floor 
with my assertions, but please hold your disbelief for a little bit.  First 
I have to make some politically charged comments but I promise to pull it 
together and keep it on-topic (in the end):

OK, here we go, (much politicalspeak follows):

1>> Whoever loses this election will run for president again.  They are both 
reasonably young candidates, and nobody who gains half the country in an 
election and loses, is going to hang his hat up.  Whoever loses is going to 
start campaigning for the next election NOW.  This isn't like Mondale, 
Dukakis, or Dole; those guys lost badly and couldn't be taken seriously to 
run again.  The loser will especially run again if the president-elect sucks 
at his job.  I'm not saying the 2004 election is going to be the same 
election, but don't be suprised if Gore/Bush show-up 8 years, 12 years from 
now.

2>> If Bush takes Florida, Gore should, and I think, will, quietly concede 
the election (as long as there was no obvious out-right FRAUD).  Like I said 
before, he can easily run again, and its not like he's putting a final nail 
in his political coffin.  But if he fights it, he'll cause some real 
problems, maybe cause a constitutional crisis, and maybe look like a 
nitpicking jerk.  And I just read that stocks are tumbling like crazy over 
this turmoil.

These are the reasons why I feel this way (if you care, read, if not move on 
down below):

2a>> Although there's a case to be made for some real SNAFUs, they would 
have never entered the light of day if it hadn't been for the closeness of 
Florida's vote.  I'm sure similar SNAFUs happened in other states which were 
very close (like my homestate of Oregon, which, as I write this, is still 
undecided, 7 measly electoral votes and all).  Everyone would get behind 
allegations of FRAUD, but as demonstrated by the list already, SNAFUs?  That 
one is split pretty much down party lines.  I think it totally sucks that 
somebody might lose their voice in this election--but I also think winning a 
presidental election on what is really a technicality is even worse. 
Remember, Gore's a true politician.  If that re-vote in Florida happen now, 
with him as the winner, I guarantee he'd lose the presidency in 4 years.  
Guaranteed.  I also think he'd get absolutely nothing done, which is a 
distinct possibility for a Bush presidency now (considering the 50/50 split 
in the Senate).  Whoever does become President is in for a tough time.

2b>> As for the weird Electoral College problem, the Electoral College 
should stay in place as is.  I'm not comfortable with dismantling a major 
part of our political process and Our Constitution, over something that has 
happened twice in over 200 years.  Remember, the EC is there so smaller 
states will be better represented.  Take that out, and the politicians only 
need to hit about a few places across the country and really only care about 
LA and New York.  Besides, being the popularly elected, gracious loser is a 
great platform to run on in 4 years.  I can hear the slogan already ("You 
popularly elected me 4 years ago, re-elect me now!")  If he shines now, 
he'll shine even better later.

Anyway, if you want to discuss the points above, feel free to e-mail me off 
list.  I'd love to discuss it with you.

ONTO THE CLIOMANTIC OCCULT STUFF

So, here are the facts: you have a somewhat shady Vice President, of a 
reasonably popular administration that has presided over a great economy, 
running a tight race with the heir-apparent of a American political dynasty 
(composed mostly of brothers).  The election hinges on the hotly contested 
results of one state, which is controlled by the dynasty (or friends of the 
dynasty).  If what happens is what I think will happen, the Vice President 
will back off so that he can fight another day, although he has reason to 
push the issue.  Yep, that's the 1960 election.

The VP is Nixon, the state is Illinois (where Democratic mayor Daley's 
political machine got a helluva a lot of dead guys to vote in Chicago), and 
the dynasty was the Kennedys.

Afterwards, history played out like this: after the assasination of the 
heir, the country dipped into one of its most politically volatile eras, the 
shady VP came back to rescue the country only to fall from grace in a huge 
fiasco.

Occult-cliomantic wise, this is a gimme: we're in a loop.  GWB will be 
assasinated before he has a chance at re-election, and Gore will come back, 
only to get caught in maybe a bigger China-gate.  Jeb better watch his back 
when he makes his presidential run.  Of course, specific details don't jab 
as well, but c'mon, you don't expect history to repeat exactly twice, do 
you?   Draw more parallels at your peril.

Of course, the real future of the free world depends on some heroin junkies 
in Vegas, the most powerful black man in America, the Invisible College 
(excuse me, the Electoral Clergy), some ex-porn stars, some drunken idiot 
who happens to have the glass the last shady VP owned, and a bunch of 
homeless people who make bets on fighting teddy bears.

Maybe someone is engaged in a ritual that they unsuccessful cast the first 
time during JFK (and its taken this long to get the mojo back).  Maybe its 
to usurp the Clergy/College, maybe its to create a truly earth-shattering 
artifact, maybe its just some political hacks renting low-rent scumbags to 
effect the electoral process.  Maybe there's some horrible *thing* on the 
other side, that got caught there during the last run at this, and now is 
trying to break free.  Maybe, Gore will carry Florida afterall, and I'll 
have to make an alternate history campaign.

If you've made it down this far, HELLO!

Steve Dustin
yetiseti at hotmail.com



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