[UA] The Unknown Truth version 1

stuartanderson at uswest.net stuartanderson at uswest.net
Sun Apr 30 10:02:03 PDT 2000



Allen Smith wrote:

> On Apr 28,  5:55pm, Gareth Hanrahan wrote:
> > >I'm having some problems with the Mystic Hermaphrodite, though. I
> > >like the Freak, of course, right, but I don't see clearly how the
> > >archtype fits in the collective unconscious. Seems too much
> > >hermetic to me.
> >
> > Probably made sense to Plato, or the alchemists or something.
> > Transexuals keep aspects of the idea in the modern consciousness,
>
> Don't forget various respects in which gender crossing is becoming
> more common... as well as the rock stars I mentioned just now, there
> are also the modern crossovers in gender roles, both societal (jobs,
> clothing, et al) and physical. (Estrogen mimicking compounds are not
> uncommon by any means, and appear to have differing effects on people
> depending on how much estrogen the person has around "naturally"; they
> are weakly estrogenic when they attach to the receptors, but can block
> natural estrogen from getting in and having a stronger effect. I
> wouldn't describe this for males as a bad thing, BTW... it may be
> helping keep male cholesterol levels lower than they would be otherwise,
> for instance, and the (debatable) drops in sperm levels aren't a bad
> thing when one considers overpopulation. For women, the effectively
> estrogen-blocking effects of the estrogen mimicking compounds in soy
> appear to be a large factor keeping breast cancer down in Japan, for
> instance.)
>
>         -Allen
>
> --
> Allen Smith                             easmith at beatrice.rutgers.edu
>
>

    I saw something on 20/20 or 48 hours or something about these fellas in
India. They have varying levels and methods of gender ambiguity. Some are
transsexuals, some are crossdressers. Some are very passable as female, some
are as feminine as Max Klinger. They seem to live together in communal co-op
arrangements. When they hear of a baby being born, they crash the party,
dancing around, extorting an offering in exchange for their blessing. And
they get it. The parents live in fear of these guys. These are modern,
educated people, firmly acknowledging some big ju-ju in these guys.
    Aren't the shamen in Singapore sort of gender neutral?
    And as long as we have a thread hanging about New Orleans, I can speak
from experience about the very careful attention paid to these issues in the
Quarter as it begins to get late. If you have any insecurities about these
issues, don't go anywhere near the Silver Follies. You'll be in therapy for
a long time.
    If the game is going to base its magick system on dramatic paradox, it
can't avoid gender identity. Groovy discussion.
--Stu.

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