Musings on the Underground

[James Palmer]

> 
> > The OU rarely affects normal events, either - too many sides afraid of the
> > claws of the tiger, too focused on itself.  Out of the whole history of
> > the world, the occult has probably impacted about five percent of events.
> > There's a secret occult history, yes, but it very rarely interacts or
> > affects normal history.
> 
> You're restricting the occult to just magick, yes, not the avatars?

That's what I was thinking of originally, yes.  

  Or would
> you have (almost) all avatars be people not in the historical record, and
> (almost) all historical figures not be avatars?  There would be a certain
> logic to that, since in fact historical figures never disappear.

Good point.  Hadn't thought of that.  This doesn't prevent them from
having been avatars or Godwalkers, just from actually joining the
Invisible Clergy.

Interesting issue; which historical characters did disappear, or had
suitably ambiguous deaths?  

  For a few
> archetypes, that doesn't work -- I suppose They must have edited the
> historical record to make everyone think Alexander the Great just died 
> instead of becoming The Conqueror. 

Nah; Nimrod got there earlier, and we don't have any records of his death,
far as I know.

 But isn't it surprising that neither 
> Tesla nor Edison ascended?
> 

Perhaps they were too busy fighting each other to become the Inventor
(presumably already taken by Da Vinci ... records of his death, anybody?),
and neither of them actually made it.

Something we haven't seen yet; Renunciated historical characters, kicked
out of the IC.  

> (Incidentally, does anyone have any idea what archetype Benjamin Bathurst
> became?)

I'm going to have to ask "Who?"