<div dir="ltr">Hi <div>Does anyone have an idea about the component of solar Air -PVT collector because right now in my knowledge the TRNSYS have only a PVT for the hot water system ?</div><div>please Help </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 29 sept. 2021 à 12:02, <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: heating load - 1 mn time step (Alain GUIAVARCH)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Ok, according to the manual I understand it is related to the timebase and the transfer functions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>De la part de</b> Alain GUIAVARCH via TRNSYS-users<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Angel,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you for your help.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Actually I’m not talking about the moment when the set point changes from 17°C from 20° (I agree with you this is normal).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>But when we look at what happens each hour of the day, the heat load suddenly changes every hour, even if the set point temperature doesn’t change, this is what I don’t understand : the heat load
curve looks like a « staircase ». It is the same for the temperature, so I think it doesn’t come from the heating power control.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I guess that you are calculating the heating load with unlimited heating power. If that's the case, you are requesting to type 56 that the building reach the setpoint temperature in 1 minute (that might be lot of energy for such a small
amount of time) and the sudden peaks in the heating load appear at times where you have a change in the setpoint temperature. I will suggest that you use a limited power for your heating device, or increase your time step to a time that you find reasonable
to heat your building. In general, smaller time steps are "better", but if you are just interested in calculating your heating load that's not necessarily true, specially if you are interested in calculating peak power. Hope it helps, best regards<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">El mar, 28 sept 2021 a las 10:44, Alain GUIAVARCH via TRNSYS-users (<<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>) escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m simulating a projet with type 56, and 1 mn time step.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t understand the heating load : it varies too much each hour, like something is not interpolated (green curve in the attached file ).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Would anybody have any idea, did I forget something ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Badr OUHAMMOU <<a href="mailto:badr.ouhammou@uit.ac.ma" target="_blank">badr.ouhammou@uit.ac.ma</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 11:59:13 +0100<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Information request<br><div dir="ltr">does Trnsys has a component for solar PVT air collector ? <br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><p align="left"><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2">Badr Ouhammou<span lang="en"><span><br></span></span></font></i></font></p><p align="left"><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2"><span lang="en">Renewable Energy and Environment Laboratory</span></font></i></font><span lang="en"><span></span></span></p><p align="left"><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2">Ibn Tofail University<br></font></i></font></p><p align="left"><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2">Faculty of Sciences<br></font></i></font></p><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2">BP. 133, 14 000 Kenitra-Morocco<br></font></i></font></div><font size="3"><i><font color="#4c76a2"><a href="mailto:baouhammou@yahoo.com" target="_blank">baouhammou@yahoo.com</a><br></font></i></font></div></div></div>
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