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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Kan,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I struggled with those Type 56 outputs recently and I came up with the attached interpretation. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I hope this helps, and I hope someone from Transsolar will correct me if I misinterpreted some outputs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Michaël Kummert<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Polytechnique Montréal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-CA'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-CA'> TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>K.R. Gunawardena via TRNSYS-users<br><b>Sent:</b> April 9, 2021 10:44<br><b>To:</b> David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>; TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br><b>Cc:</b> K.R. Gunawardena <krag2@cam.ac.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] FW: Net radiation received on a specific internal surface - Type 56<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Many thanks David for your response and clarification!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>QIBAB and QIDAB would address shortwave absorption. What about the longwave exchange?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>I am currently working under the following assumptions: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>To get the radiative gains for the internal/indoor wall’s surface = radiative airnode internal gains received by wall (assumed to be given by QRGAB) + solar gains through zone windows received by walls ( assumed as QIBAB + QIDAB or QSIAB as a total?) + longwave radiation exchange between this wall and all other walls and windows (QABSILW? not sure about this one).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Your clarification is greatly appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Best regrads,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Kan <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> 09 April 2021 15:12<br><b>To:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> K.R. Gunawardena <<a href="mailto:krag2@cam.ac.uk">krag2@cam.ac.uk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] FW: Net radiation received on a specific internal surface - Type 56<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB>Kan,</span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB> I often use QIBAB and QIDAB (NTypes 80 and 81). Those are the quantities of radiation absorbed (as opposed to incident) on the inside surface, however.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB> Wall gains are specified as totals, not per square metre.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB>kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB> David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On 04/09/2021 05:15, K.R. Gunawardena via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Hi,</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>I am trying to get clarification on a couple of issues.</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>I am trying to couple a bespoke component with Type 56 to calculate surface evaporative flux. I want to input the net radiation received on a specific internal surface as an input to this component. Which trnsys output best represents the net radiation energy received by an internal surface? </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Second, when specifying a wall gain, do we provide the value for the entire wall or m^2?</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Answers are greatly appreciated,</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Best regards,</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Kan </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-GB>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>TRNSYS-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@lists.onebuilding.org">TRNSYS-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/trnsys-users-onebuilding.org">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/trnsys-users-onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><pre><span lang=EN-GB>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>***************************<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>David BRADLEY<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>Principal<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>Madison, WI 53703 USA<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>P:+1.608.274.2577<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="http://www.tess-inc.com">http://www.tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="http://www.trnsys.com">http://www.trnsys.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></body></html>