<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Please send the list file for the project that fails as well as the list file for the project with Type533 that fails. The list file provides more information than the log file.<div><br></div><div>Jeff <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:06 PM, David BRADLEY via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>I am afraid that I don't have any other suggestions.</p>
<p>kind regards,</p>
<p> David</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Dear
David, Dear Werner,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thank
you very much for the support !
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">First
to answer Werner :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US">architecture : are all machines 32 or 64
bit ? <br>
</span><span style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:windowtext">both are 64
bit machines</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#ED7D31;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">dependencies : do the
types use any third-party DLLs (e.g. C runtime, .Net
framework, ...) that you have on your laptop but not on
the production machine ?<br>
</span><span style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:windowtext">I don’t think
so, however I am not the developer of the types so I
cannot be certain. Type 6139 is written in C++ and have
include statements in the source code with relative path
to header files (#include
"export/include/FMIComponentBackEnd.h"). But I believe,
there are only use for the compilation of the code.<o:p></o:p></span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US">debug vs. release : are you using a
recompiled version in debug mode on your laptop, while the
other machine uses a 'normal' (release' TRNSYS ?<br>
</span><span style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:windowtext">I tried with
the TRNDLL that I have on my laptop (it is a recompiled
version in release mode) and the result is the same
error</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US">do the types make assumptions about the
environment (e.g. existing directories, files or
environment variables) which make them return something
different than one when they do not find them ?<br>
</span><span style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:windowtext">see answer #2</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I
believe these also answers the David’s questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">As
for testing other External libs. Here is what I get with
TESS example for type 533 and 534. As well type 533 is not
loaded and I get the following error (see screen shot).
However, I tried type600 example and it runs… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Again
many thanks and I hope we can solve this issue,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Xavier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US">De :</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"> David
BRADLEY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com"><d.bradley@tess-inc.com></a>
<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi, 25 janvier 2021 16:50<br>
<b>À :</b> Jobard Xavier
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch"><xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch></a>; TRNSYS users mailing
list at OneBuilding.org
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org"><trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org></a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] error with dll found
but is not loading the type on Virtual Machine Win10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Xavier, </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">It is possible that if you are using the
debug form of the TRNDll and external dlls that the computer
needs to have a microsoft run-time library installed.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Werner's question about other dependencies
is a good one; are the Types simple self contained things or
do they perhaps in turn call on libraries that may not be
available?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Another interesting thing to try would
beto try and run some TESS Libraries examples (if you have
access to them) on this machine. Since the TESS Libraries
are set up to load from external dlls, it would test whether
the problem is fundamentally external dlls or whether it is
your specific dlls.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 01/25/2021 02:06,
Jobard Xavier wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Dear
David, </span>
<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Many
thanks for the answer.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I
realize that my question was not specified correctly.<br>
To answer your questions:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">The dlls are correctly located</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I am running Trnsys 17,
so I should not have any compatibility problem between
32-bit and 64-bit dlls.
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Can
you help me further ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Xavier</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US">De :</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"> David
BRADLEY
</span><a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><d.bradley@tess-inc.com></span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US">
<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi, 22 janvier 2021 17:12<br>
<b>À :</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at
OneBuilding.org </span><a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org></span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Jobard Xavier </span><a href="mailto:xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch></span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH" lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] error with dll found
but is not loading the type on Virtual Machine Win10</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Xavier,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> I think the first thing to check is to
make sure that the dlls containing Types832 and 6139 are
in the appropriate subdirectory of .\TrnsysXX\UserLib. The
other thing that occurs to me is that there may be a
mismatch between 64- and 32- bit versions. If those Types
are compiled as 32-bit dlls they will not be found by the
64-bit Trnsys18 even if the files are in the correct
location.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> I apologize if these suggestions are
very basic!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 01/21/2021 10:13,
Jobard Xavier via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear TRNSYS user,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am trying to run a
Trnsys deck with non-standard types (Type 832 and Type
6139) on a virtual machine (win10).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A simple example
(SDHW.dck) works fine. However my deck with type832 and
type6139 which works fine on my laptop throws the errors
but are actually listed as found further up the log file
:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">*** Fatal Error at
time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by
Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by
Type : 832<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> TRNSYS
Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input
file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was
not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was
called in its place. Please link the TYPE or remove it
from the input file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Reported
information : Type832 could not be located in either
the trndll.dll or in an external dll. Please relink
theTRNDll.dll including this Type or make sure that an
external DLL in the \UserLib\DebugDLLs and
\UserLib\ReleaseDLLs folders contain the Type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">*** Fatal Error at
time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by
Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by
Type : 6139<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> TRNSYS
Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input
file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was
not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was
called in its place. Please link the TYPE or remove it
from the input file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Reported
information : Type6139 could not be located in either
the trndll.dll or in an external dll. Please relink
theTRNDll.dll including this Type or make sure that an
external DLL in the \UserLib\DebugDLLs and
\UserLib\ReleaseDLLs folders contain the Type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">These 2 types are
distributed by research institutes and were not
recompiled in any way. Type 832 was used on several
machines without problem before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Can somebody help ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span lang="EN-US">Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202
Madison, WI 53703 USA
P:+1.608.274.2577
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