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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear David, Dear Werner,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thank you very much for the support !
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">First to answer Werner :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">architecture : are all machines 32 or 64 bit ? <br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><span style="color:windowtext">both are 64 bit machines</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#ED7D31;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">dependencies : do the types use any third-party DLLs (e.g. C runtime, .Net framework, ...) that you have on your laptop but not on the production machine ?<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><span style="color:windowtext">I don’t think so, however I am not the developer of the types so I cannot be certain. Type 6139 is written
in C++ and have include statements in the source code with relative path to header files (#include "export/include/FMIComponentBackEnd.h"). But I believe, there are only use for the compilation of the code.<o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US">debug vs. release : are you using a recompiled version in debug mode on your laptop, while the other machine uses a 'normal' (release' TRNSYS ?<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><span style="color:windowtext">I tried with the TRNDLL that I have on my laptop (it is a recompiled version in release mode) and the
result is the same error</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-US">do the types make assumptions about the environment (e.g. existing directories, files or environment variables) which make them return something different than one when they do not find them ?<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#C55A11;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><span style="color:windowtext">see answer #2</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I believe these also answers the David’s questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">As for testing other External libs. Here is what I get with TESS example for type 533 and 534. As well type 533 is not loaded and I get the following error (see screen shot). However, I tried type600
example and it runs… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Again many thanks and I hope we can solve this issue,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Xavier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><img width="420" height="600" style="width:4.375in;height:6.25in" id="Image_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01D6F3C2.3AED17F0"></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH">De :</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"> David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi, 25 janvier 2021 16:50<br>
<b>À :</b> Jobard Xavier <xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch>; TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] error with dll found but is not loading the type on Virtual Machine Win10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Xavier, </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">It is possible that if you are using the debug form of the TRNDll and external dlls that the computer needs to have a microsoft run-time library installed.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Werner's question about other dependencies is a good one; are the Types simple self contained things or do they perhaps in turn call on libraries that may not be available?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Another interesting thing to try would beto try and run some TESS Libraries examples (if you have access to them) on this machine. Since the TESS Libraries are set up to load from external dlls, it would test whether the problem is fundamentally
external dlls or whether it is your specific dlls.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 01/25/2021 02:06, Jobard Xavier wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear David, </span>
<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Many thanks for the answer.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I realize that my question was not specified correctly.<br>
To answer your questions:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">The dlls are correctly located</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I am running Trnsys 17, so I should not have any compatibility problem between 32-bit and 64-bit dlls.
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Can you help me further ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Xavier</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH">De :</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"> David BRADLEY
</span><a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><d.bradley@tess-inc.com></span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH">
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<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi, 22 janvier 2021 17:12<br>
<b>À :</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org </span><a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org></span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><br>
<b>Cc :</b> Jobard Xavier </span><a href="mailto:xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><xavier.jobard@heig-vd.ch></span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] error with dll found but is not loading the type on Virtual Machine Win10</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Xavier,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> I think the first thing to check is to make sure that the dlls containing Types832 and 6139 are in the appropriate subdirectory of .\TrnsysXX\UserLib. The other thing that occurs to me is that there may be a mismatch between 64- and
32- bit versions. If those Types are compiled as 32-bit dlls they will not be found by the 64-bit Trnsys18 even if the files are in the correct location.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> I apologize if these suggestions are very basic!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 01/21/2021 10:13, Jobard Xavier via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear TRNSYS user,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am trying to run a Trnsys deck with non-standard types (Type 832 and Type 6139) on a virtual machine (win10).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A simple example (SDHW.dck) works fine. However my deck with type832 and type6139 which works fine on my laptop throws the errors but are actually listed as found further up the log file :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by Type : 832<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> TRNSYS Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was called in its place. Please link the TYPE or
remove it from the input file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Reported information : Type832 could not be located in either the trndll.dll or in an external dll. Please relink theTRNDll.dll including this Type or make sure that an external DLL in the \UserLib\DebugDLLs and
\UserLib\ReleaseDLLs folders contain the Type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Generated by Type : 6139<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> TRNSYS Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was called in its place. Please link the TYPE or
remove it from the input file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Reported information : Type6139 could not be located in either the trndll.dll or in an external dll. Please relink theTRNDll.dll including this Type or make sure that an external DLL in the \UserLib\DebugDLLs and
\UserLib\ReleaseDLLs folders contain the Type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">These 2 types are distributed by research institutes and were not recompiled in any way. Type 832 was used on several machines without problem before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Can somebody help ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#D62731;text-transform:uppercase;mso-fareast-language:FR-CH">Xavier Jobard</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CH"><br>
Ing. INSA Strasbourg<br>
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