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<div>Si sì solo d estate.</div><div>Perché altrimenti io avevo pensato di ridurre la temperatura che controllo relativa all’ accumulo che mi fa partire il gruppo frigorifero, lasciando il controllo sulla temperatura di mandata invariato.</div><div>In questo modo abbassando quella temperatura, ho molta più probabilità che il gruppo frigorifero parta per evitare che l accumulo abbia temperature troppo calde, così dovrebbe calare di conseguenza anche il numero di volte in cui é la temperatura di mandata ad attivare il gruppo frigorifero no?</div><div><br></div>
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Il venerdì 8 gennaio 2021, 12:06:59 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org> ha scritto:
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Beh dipende dal tuo utilizzo. Se poi l'accumulo è ben isolato termicamente, hai poche dispersioni termiche. Questo sistema
funzionerebbe solo in estate, no? </span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Ma in questo modo non faccio andare il gruppo frigorifero maggiormente? Perché voglio sempre un accumulo freddo carico in questa situazione.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il venerdì 8 gennaio 2021, 11:50:14 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656msonormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ah ok, adesso ho capito. Guarda è molto semplice: fai partire il gruppo frigorifero solo comandato dall accumulo. In questo modo
avrai sempre il fluido nell accumulo a temperatura fredda ed i fan coils partono solo in caso di bisogno. Secondo me non vi è alcun bisogno di comandare il gruppo frigorifero comandato dalla t di mandata dei fan coils. Capisci?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il passaggio del fluido attraverso l accumulo freddo é obbligatorio, quindi il fluido che va ai fan coils viene da questo accumulo.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Io attualmente ho due controlli che mi possono far partire il gruppo frigorifero.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">1) se la temperatura nell accumulo freddo é troppo alta, allora parte il gruppo frigorifero.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Ho già un comando OR che mi gestisce queste due opzioni, solo che ho notato che é sempre il controllo sulla temperatura di mandata a farlo
partire. Quindi io mi stavo chiedendo come fare per far si che quando i fan-coils sono spenti, il gruppo frigorifero parta e si accumuli acqua fredda nel serbatoio in modo da evitare accensioni inutili del gruppo frigorifero quando partono i fan-coils.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msonormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">In questi casi penso sia sempre meglio dare la precedenza ai fan coils, ossia attivare il gruppo frigorifero
laddove tu abbia bisogno di freddo.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msonormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Nel caso in cui tu vuoi effettuare questa modifica, potresti strutturare un controllo sui fan coils ed
uno sull accumulo e con una istruzione OR attivare il gruppo frigorifero se si attiva uno di quei due controlli. A questo punto, io lavorerei piuttosto sull attivazione delle valvole a tre vie deviatrici, ossia:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msolistparagraph"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">1)</span><span lang="IT" style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D;">
</span><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Se viene richiesto freddo ai fan coils, devia il flusso di acqua fredda verso i fan coils e non verso l accumulo</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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</span><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Se viene richiesto freddo all accumulo, devia il flusso di acqua fredda verso l accumulo</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msonormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Un'altra soluzione sarebbe quella di eliminare completamente il collegamento gruppo frigorifero – fan
coils ed alimentare i fan coils solo dall accumulo e collegando il gruppo frigorifero solo all accumulo, ma questo dipende dal tuo impianto e da cosa vuoi simulare o ti hanno chiesto di simulare…</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Volevo chiederti un altro consiglio. Io ho un gruppo frigorifero che mi produce acqua fredda per i fan-coils quando
i fan-coils partono, e tra il gruppo frigorifero ed i terminali ho un accumulo freddo.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Ora io voglio attivare il gruppo frigorifero anche quando i fan-coils non vanno, immagazzinando l energia fredda
nell accumulo.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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dei fan-coils ed uno dalla temperatura del fluido immagazzinato nell accumulo. Ho notato che é solo il segnale di controllo della temperatura di mandata a farmi partire il gruppo frigorifero.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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modo da far sì che quando il fluido che ho nell accumulo é troppo caldo, allora il gruppo frigorifero va. é corretto?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il mercoledì 6 gennaio 2021, 12:59:08 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:53 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Filippo Angeli <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:filippoangeli24@yahoo.it" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">filippoangeli24@yahoo.it</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Perfetto. Si lo farò.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Intendevo dire per l'operatore and se l'equazione va scritta cosi: Free_cooling= and(GE(T_amb,18),LE(T_amb,24))</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il mercoledì 6 gennaio 2021, 12:48:15 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">L operatore AND va definito solo nella equazione del controllo Free_Cooling. L'operatore OR non ti serve in questo caso.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ti consiglio comunque prima di provare l'equazione e vedere con un plot se come output hai quello che ti aspetti di avere. Poi lo implementi nell edificio</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:43 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Perfetto.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">L'operatore AND va inserito in mezzo e non all'inizio? perchè l'OR lo metto all inizio</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il mercoledì 6 gennaio 2021, 12:40:16 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ah ok, adesso ho capito meglio. Dovresti allora scrivere una coppia di equazioni:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Free_Cooling = GT(Tamb,18) AND LT(Tamb,24) -> con questa equazione attiverai il Free Cooling solo quanto la T esterna sarä compresa tra 18 e 24°C</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Portata = C_season * (Free_Cooling* Profilo_aria + (1- Free_Cooling)*0.6) -> con questa equazione attivi la portata di Free cooling solo in estate e solo quando il
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">In pratica io voglio avere il free cooling notturno d'estate solo sotto determinate condizioni. A quel punto una volta determinate devo far si che la portata di ricambio d'aria dipenda
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Quando invece il free cooling non lo posso usare perchè non rispetto queste condizioni di temperatura, voglio una portata di ventilazione di 0.6 m3/hrm2.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Non so se mi sono spiegato bene.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Grazie e cordiali saluti.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il mercoledì 6 gennaio 2021, 12:26:59 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Scusami ma forse non ho capito bene cosa vuoi modellare. Sostanzialmente tu vorresti ventilare il tuo edificio in estate quando fuori fa fresco (a esempio di sera e di notte
in estate). A questo punto io penso che puoi semplicemente scrivere una equazione sul controllo che attivi il Free Cooling solo se la temperatura esterna è compresa tra 18 e 24 °C. Dovrebbe essere possibile farlo con una equazione che contenga il "AND" o qualcosa
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">In sostanza: Free_Cooling = GT(Tamb,18) AND LT(Tamb,24).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">E' quello che vuoi fare?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:04 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Ciao,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">si sono Italiano.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Io ho pensato di fare in questo modo con un equazione.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Creo un comando di accensione del free cooling: Free_cooling = GE*(T_amb,18) in questo modo stabilisco un segnale di accensione del free cooling per temperature esterne maggiori di
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Poi regolo la portata d'aria in questo modo: portata= (profilo_aria*Free_cooling*GE(T_amb,24) + 0.6*LE(T_amb,24))* C_season. In questo modo faccio si che quando il free cooling può
essere utile, se la temperatura esterna è maggiore di 24 gradi allora parte mentre se è minore no. Con 24 indico la temperatura interna all'edifico di confort abbassata di 2°C .</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Può andare?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Perchè mi serve un vincolo sulla minima temperatura esterna al di sotto della quale non voglio free colling ed un vincolo che mi dica quando serve davvero attivarlo ( quindi temperatura
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Grazie e cordiali saluti.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Angeli FIlippo</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Il mercoledì 6 gennaio 2021, 09:07:46 CET, Toni Calabrese via TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Hallo Filippo,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I suppose that you are Italian. In case let me know and I will write you in Italian.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">If you want to model the night cooling, you can follow two approaches:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">1.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">You could use Type 2 (controller) in order to get 1 in case the external temperature is lower than a certain value</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">2.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">You could use an equation. Please have a look in the EQUATION Statement and you can learn how to set an equation with the function "GT" or "LT".</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">You can follow the first or the second approach depending on your experience with TRNSYS. Maybe it would be easier for you to start with the second approach.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I hope I helped you</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> TRNSYS-users <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Filippo Angeli via TRNSYS-users<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 5, 2021 8:25 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Cc:</b> Filippo Angeli <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:filippoangeli24@yahoo.it" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">filippoangeli24@yahoo.it</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] night free cooling</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<span class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746ydp73943f64yiv6106570067ydp995cf49cyiv7700565708ydp877753f0jlqj4b"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Good evening, I want to include night free
cooling in my building during the summer season.</span></span><span class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746ydp73943f64yiv6106570067ydp995cf49cyiv7700565708ydp877753f0viiyi"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">
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regulates the night ventilation air flow rate, so that free cooling occurs when I have an external temperature greater than 15 ° C? Furthermore, I want night free cooling to occur only in certain external temperature conditions (for example greater than 24
° C).</span></span><span class="ydpac0b8284yiv9805796920ydp84472afbyiv8602152656ydp8e61645cyiv3577453746ydp73943f64yiv6106570067ydp995cf49cyiv7700565708ydp877753f0viiyi"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">
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