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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=PL link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you very much Marion and David!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Karol Bandurski<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:PL'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:PL'> Marion Hiller [mailto:Hiller@Transsolar.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 1, 2019 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br><b>Cc:</b> David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>; Karol BANDURSKI <karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl><br><b>Subject:</b> AW: [TRNSYS-users] shading calculation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:windowtext'>Karol,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>you don’t need to turn on “detailed radiation mode” for a zone for generating and using a shading mask.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>If “standard radiation mode” is selected for all zones and you generate shading/insolation mask, there will be a shading mask generated only.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>If you run the simulation there is a notice in the *.log / *.lst file :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>*** Notice at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> Generated by Unit : 56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> Generated by Type : 56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> Message : Shading mask file *.shm for external windows exists and will be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>In addition, you can define a geometric shading output for checking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>In many cases, the geometric shading has a significant impact but not the geometric distribution of direct solar radiation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>Marion<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#005A00;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH'>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></b><span lang=DE-CH style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#005A00;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH'>Dipl.-Ing. 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September 2019 20:25<br><b>An:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>>; Karol BANDURSKI <<a href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl">karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] shading calculation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE>Karol,</span><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE> Would it be possible to activate the detailed radiation model only for certain critical zones in the building? These might be zones that have a lot of windows for the given floor area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE>kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE> David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>On 09/24/2019 05:33, Karol BANDURSKI via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Dear Experts,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>My goal is to get solar gain reaching each zone of my multiunit residential building. I need to take into account shading of surrounding buildings and self-shading.</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have prepared appropriate model in SketcUp (.idf enclosed).</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>It seems to me that .shm file is enough for my goal. But detailed beam radiation calculation need also .ism file for each considered zone.</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>My computer is not manage to create .ism files, I have only .shm file (enclosed).</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Is there any way to get this solar gains, based only on .shm?</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Simplification of building model are not solution for me… (I have simplified it as much as possible and each change of geometry could generate whole model error).</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Kind regards,</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Karol Bandurski</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:PL'>--------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:PL'>Karol BANDURSKI M. 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