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    <p>Enrico,</p>
    <p> Would it be possible to adjust the size of the various
      components of your system until the amount of energy required from
      the grid is zero?</p>
    <p> We run into this kind of situation a lot in developing
      components like batteries. The question is what to do when the
      battery state of charge goes to zero, there is a load, and no
      electrical input. Should the simulation end with an error? If not
      and the simulation should continue then something has to meet the
      load. The solution (or workaround depending on your point of view)
      that we decided on is to say that in this situation, a magical
      grid supplies the energy needed to meet the load. If, in reality
      that grid is not present then you know at the end of the
      simulation that you were unable to meet the load during those
      times and/or that you have to increase the amount of generating
      capacity (or storage etc.).</p>
    <p>I hope that helps!</p>
    <p>David</p>
    <p><br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/07/2018 10:25, Chinello Enrico
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I’m trying to
            model in TRNSYS 17 a system that comprises: solar panels +
            controller + battery + load. I’m trying to keep the model
            stand-alone, i.e. without any grid interconnection, but I
            couldn’t figure out how to set my controller to exclude the
            grid. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Is that possible?
            If so, how could I do it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Thanks in advance
            for your help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Enrico Chinello<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
                TRNSYS-users
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"><trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org></a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>David BRADLEY via TRNSYS-users<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> mercredi 7 novembre 2018 17:15<br>
                <b>To:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org"><trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> David BRADLEY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com"><d.bradley@tess-inc.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] AHU Example with heat
                wheel and VRV system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p>Al-Hyari,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>  It is not really possible to know what might be going wrong
          without running the project. What I would suggest is that you
          make a new project to which you add only the exhaust and
          outdoor air fans. Make sure they are the right size by
          adjusting parameter values and run the simulation using an
          online plotter to verify that the temperature, humidity and
          flow rate leaving the fans is as you planned for it to be.
          Next, add the heat wheel into the system. Again, make sure
          that the parameters are correctly set so that the heat wheel
          is appropriately sized to the application. Again, use the
          online plotter to verify that the temperatures, humidities,
          and flow rates exiting the wheel make sense. Keep adding one
          component at a time and verifying as you go.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>  kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p> David<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/06/2018 05:44, Al-hyari via
            TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                  Style",serif">so i tried by my own to build the
                  model for an AHU Equipped with a heat wheel and
                  auxiliary dx coil connected to a VRV System</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                  Style",serif">i want to know the values of
                  temperature and relative humidity before and after the
                  heat wheel. but there is some mistake that i can not
                  figure it out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                  Style",serif">please advise me what can i do to
                  make the correct model to simulate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                  Style",serif">in the attached files you can find
                  the trnsys model and the schematic diagram for the AHU</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                  Style",serif">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue";color:#26282A">On Tuesday, October 30,
                    2018, 3:30:38 PM GMT+1, Al-hyari via TRNSYS-users
                    <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org></a>
                    wrote:
                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
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                            Colleagues</span><span
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">It is my
                            pleasure to join this discussing group
                            mail. </span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">so my
                            question is :</span><span
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">I am
                            working to simulate an AHU equipped with
                            Heat wheel and an auxiliary dx coil
                            connected to a VRV system.</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">I am new on
                            TrnSys and i don't have much knowledge.</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">So if any
                            one could help me by sendeng a similar
                            example to study on it and make modification
                            on the block diagram i would be highly
                            appreciated.</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">Regards</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:"Bookman Old
                            Style",serif;color:#26282A">Laith F.
                            Al-Hyari</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
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                    TRNSYS-users mailing list <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <pre>***************************<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>David BRADLEY<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Principal<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Madison, WI  53703 USA<o:p></o:p></pre>
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David BRADLEY
Principal
Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC
3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202
Madison, WI  53703 USA

P:+1.608.274.2577
F:+1.608.278.1475
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