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<p>Chiara,</p>
<p>It looks like the data file that you supplied to Type 927 is horribly wrong...LOL Type 927 requires a specially formatted file that contains the NORMALIZED performance (ratio of capacity to design capacity and ration of power to design power) at a combination of source and load temperatures and flow rates. It looks like maybe the file you are using isn't normalized. Please send us your project and data files and we can verify.</p>
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<p>On 05/17/2018 11:28 am, chiara pinto via TRNSYS-users wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i took your advice and i saw the trace file .lst, that i sent you annexed to this e-mail. So the type 927 seems to be off but i don’t understand why. How can i turn it on? I know that this question seems to be stupid but is my firt project in trnsys and i can’t use very well yet. <!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i took your advice and i saw the trace file .lst, that i sent you annexed to this e-mail. So the type 927 seems to be off but i don’t understand why. How can i turn it on? I know that this question seems to be stupid but is my firt project in trnsys and i can’t use very well yet.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>Da:</strong> Jeff Thornton <thornton@tess-inc.com><br /><strong>Inviato:</strong> Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:59:02 AM<br /><strong>A:</strong> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> chiara pinto<br /><strong>Oggetto:</strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] I: strange output for type 927</span>
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<div>Chiara,
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<div>If you have no heat transfer from the heat pump that means the device is off. And if the device is off then the outlet temperature is set to the inlet temperature. So if you’re seeing a large outlet temperature it means that you are giving the model a large inlet temperature. I suggest you review the TRACE command in TRNSYS and use it to figure out what may be going wrong with your simulation.</div>
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<div><br /> On May 15, 2018, at 1:40 PM, chiara pinto via TRNSYS-users <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i’m using type 927 to simulate a water to water heatpump. I have write the input file and i have modify the input schedule in trnsys, but ,when i run the simulation , i have strange value: for example my oulet load temperature= 1.6*10^8 and this is not normal. I have the same problem if i use the input file that trnsys give me as example with its default values. <!-- o ignored --></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">One other problem is that the heat pump seems to be off because heat transfer to load end heat transfer from source are zero. There is a type to impose that heat pump had to be on from 8.00 am to 17.00 pm?<!-- o ignored --></p>
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