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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">thanks for the answer. Ok, you are right. I will use the user-supplied properties. But what do you mean with “But when
I simply specify the file in the Files tab of the proforma it runs fine here in TRNSYS.” I never get it run. Whatever I try always the two Error messages appear:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Generated by Unit : 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Message : The storage tank model was unable to read the parameter values from the supplied data file.
Please check the location and format of this data file carefully.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Generated by Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Generated by Type : 534<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> TRNSYS Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was
not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was called in its place. Please link the TYPE or remove it from the input file<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Reported information : Reported by LinkCk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hopefully you can come around with a solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hermann.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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DI Dr. mont. Hermann Schranzhofer<br>
Institut fuer Wärmetechnik / Institute of Thermal Engineering<br>
TU Graz / Graz University of Technology<br>
Inffeldgasse 25 / B, A-8010 Graz<br>
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Tel.: +43 316 873 7314<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> TRNSYS-users [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jeff Thornton via TRNSYS-users<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 13. April 2018 22:30<br>
<b>An:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeff Thornton <thornton@tess-inc.com><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 534<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>The good news is that I can repeat the error with the Type 534 plug-in here. The bad news is that I don't know yet what's causing the issue. But when I simply specify the file in the Files tab of the proforma it runs fine here in TRNSYS. One thing I did
notice was that you are using the setting for pure water. While that model is able to handle the temperature dependence of pure water, any downstream components likely cannot - which can cause energy balance issues. We recommend using the user-supplied properties
option for this reason. We'll look into the Type 534 plug-in issue and report back.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>---<br>Jeff Thornton<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>President - TESS LLC<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>22 N. Carroll Street, Madison WI USA 53703<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Office: (608) 274-2577 Fax: (608) 278-1475<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.tess-inc.com">www.tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com">thornton@tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p>On 04/13/2018 2:19 am, Schranzhofer, Hermann via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It is just a simple example. Find attached the data file and the studio file. TRNSYS Version is 17.02.0004.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hermann.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> TRNSYS-users [<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Im Auftrag von </span></strong>Jeff Thornton via TRNSYS-users<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gesendet:</span></strong> Donnerstag, 12.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">April 2018 18:34<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">An:</span></strong> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org"><span lang="EN-US">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cc:</span></strong> Jeff Thornton <</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com"><span lang="EN-US">thornton@tess-inc.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Betreff:</span></strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 534</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Send us your data file and we'll take a look at it. Which TRNSYS version are you using? Are you supplying the correct data file name on the files tabk of the proformaa?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>---<br>Jeff Thornton<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>President - TESS LLC<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>22 N. Carroll Street, Madison WI USA 53703<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Office: (608) 274-2577 Fax: (608) 278-1475<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.tess-inc.com">www.tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:thornton@tess-inc.com">thornton@tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p>On 04/12/2018 10:27 am, Schranzhofer, Hermann via TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I want to use the TESS storage tank model Type 534 for some simulations. What I need is stratified inlets. As far as I can see this is not possible with the proforma without plugin
(the parameters are locked).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So I tried my best with the plugin. Configuration is no problem but if I press the OK button in the plugin a message appears telling me “Problem reading cycle number iteration”.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If I start the simulation anyway I get the Fatal Errors below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Generated by Unit : 6<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Generated by Type : 534<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Message : The storage tank model was unable to read the parameter values from the supplied data file. Please check the location and format of this data file carefully.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">*** Fatal Error at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Generated by Unit : Not applicable or not available<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Generated by Type : 534<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> TRNSYS Message 105 : A TYPE was called in the TRNSYS input file but was either not linked into trndll.dll or was not found in an external dll. A dummy subroutine was called
in its place. Please link the TYPE or remove it from the input file<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> Reported information : Reported by LinkCk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is there any help for this problem?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hermann.<o:p></o:p></p>
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