<div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-im" style="font-size:12.8px"><p><Thank you for your explanation. Actually, my main problem is with TES and I thought by controlling the inlet temperature of solar coll can help to maintain the low temperature of fluids inside the TES. So, I already got the right amount of TES energy gain to meet the demand, but the problem is the high temperature inside TES. I need to maintain the low temperature inside TES but also produce high energy gain. Do you have any suggestion what should I do?></p><p><span style="font-size:12.8px"><Maintaining high energy gains while maintaining low temperatures is difficult unless you have great stratification and/or a very large storage. Why are you trying to maintaain low storage temperatures?></span></p></span><span class="gmail-im" style="font-size:12.8px"><div>I'm using the large scale storage with 30 temperature levels of stratification. On the attachment you can see the temperature profile inside the TES. </div><div><br></div><div>The reason I'm trying to maintain low storage temperature is because the needed temperature to deliver into the residents is only around 60C.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><I have another question still regarding SHW. I created another SHW simulation and it consists of solar coll, TES, heat pump, and buffer tank. The water to water heat pump (type 927) component acts as auxiliary heating when the heat from solar coll is not sufficient. After I run the simulation, the heat pump works but the outlet temperature really high. I only need to increase the temperature from 40C to 60C but it goes up to 90C. What control should I apply for this problem?></div><div> </div></span><div style="font-size:12.8px"><Are you charging the buffer with the heat pump or are you charging the main storage? Typically you'd use an aquastat that watcxhes the tank temperature and turns on/off the heat pump.></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">I'm charging the buffer tank with the heat pump. And for the main storage I'm charging it with the flat plate.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Aquastat controller: </div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Upper input temperature Th - Outlet load temperature (heat pump) </div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Lower input temperature Tl - Temperature to heat source (buffer)</span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Monitoring temperature Tin - Temperature to load (buffer)</span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">are these connections correct?</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><span class="gmail-im" style="font-size:12.8px"><div> <img src="cid:ii_15f71142bd9a0d98" alt="Inline image 1" width="562" height="299"></div><div><br></div></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Jeff Thornton via TRNSYS-users <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p><Thank you for your explanation. Actually, my main problem is with TES and I thought by controlling the inlet temperature of solar coll can help to maintain the low temperature of fluids inside the TES. So, I already got the right amount of TES energy gain to meet the demand, but the problem is the high temperature inside TES. I need to maintain the low temperature inside TES but also produce high energy gain. Do you have any suggestion what should I do?></p>
</span><p>Maintaining high energy gains while maintaining low temperatures is difficult unless you have great stratification and/or a very large storage. Why are you trying to maintaain low storage temperatures?</p><span class="">
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<div><I have another question still regarding SHW. I created another SHW simulation and it consists of solar coll, TES, heat pump, and buffer tank. The water to water heat pump (type 927) component acts as auxiliary heating when the heat from solar coll is not sufficient. After I run the simulation, the heat pump works but the outlet temperature really high. I only need to increase the temperature from 40C to 60C but it goes up to 90C. What control should I apply for this problem?></div>
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</span><div>Are you charging the buffer with the heat pump or are you charging the main storage? Typically you'd use an aquastat that watcxhes the tank temperature and turns on/off the heat pump.</div><span class="">
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<div>Thank you for your explanation. Actually, my main problem is with TES and I thought by controlling the inlet temperature of solar coll can help to maintain the low temperature of fluids inside the TES. So, I already got the right amount of TES energy gain to meet the demand, but the problem is the high temperature inside TES. I need to maintain the low temperature inside TES but also produce high energy gain. Do you have any suggestion what should I do?</div>
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<div>I have another question still regarding SHW. I created another SHW simulation and it consists of solar coll, TES, heat pump, and buffer tank. The water to water heat pump (type 927) component acts as auxiliary heating when the heat from solar coll is not sufficient. After I run the simulation, the heat pump works but the outlet temperature really high. I only need to increase the temperature from 40C to 60C but it goes up to 90C. What control should I apply for this problem?</div>
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