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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thank you Jakob for thinking of it again.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Actually I think you were partly right too: there is something missing in my balance i.e. </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>radiative heat & internal radiative gains absorbed by the inside surface.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>So I cannot figure out how to account for this! If you have any further thoughts about it…</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>(I forgot to post on the users list before: I'll reply to all now.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Best</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Antoine Gautier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Solamen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>+33 6 58 24 02 60<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>antoine.gautier@solamen</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>.fr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>De :</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'> hotline [mailto:hotline@Transsolar.com] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 30 mai 2017 10:28<br><b>À :</b> Antoine Gautier <antoine.gautier@solamen.fr><br><b>Objet :</b> AW: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 net energy balance from window to zone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Dear Antoine,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>thinking of it again I have to confess that you were right in the first place </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'>–</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'> sorry for that</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'>…</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Jakob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>__________________________________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Jakob Merk M.Sc.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Curiestraße 2<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>70563 Stuttgart<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Telefon: +49 711 67976-0<br>Fax: +49 711 67976-11<br>Email: <a href="mailto:merk@transsolar.com"><span style='color:blue'>merk@transsolar.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.transsolar.com/"><span style='color:blue'>http://www.transsolar.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Transsolar: KlimaEngineering- Technologien für energieeffizientes Bauen und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäuden<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Stuttgart – München – New York – Paris <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Geschäftsführer :Diplom-Ingenieur Matthias Schuler, Diplom-Ingenieur Thomas Auer, Diplom-Physiker Stefan Holst, Diplom-Betriebswirt Dieter Schnelle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 23347, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Steuernummer: 99073/00911,USt-IdNr.: DE 152272639<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'> Antoine Gautier [<a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr">mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> 29 May 2017 12:07<br><b>An:</b> hotline <<a href="mailto:hotline@Transsolar.com">hotline@Transsolar.com</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 net energy balance from window to zone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thanks Jakob!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I thought about QABSI (with the analogy to a wall).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The problem is from what I understand QABSI includes absorbed solar gain at inside surface: part of it being reemitted inwards so included in QCOMI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Basically for a single pane glazing this part should correspond to QSHFPR so this variable could be subtracted to QCOMI and not counted twice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>However for a multiple pane glazing this part should be lower than QSHFPR which also accounts for inwards reemission of absorbed radiation by the outer panes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>What if not accounted for in QSTRNS + QCOMI – QSOUT is only radiative heat & internal radiative gains absorbed by the inside surface right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Antoine Gautier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Solamen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>+33 6 58 24 02 60<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'><a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr">antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>De :</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'> hotline [<a href="mailto:hotline@Transsolar.com">mailto:hotline@Transsolar.com</a>] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 29 mai 2017 11:35<br><b>À :</b> Antoine Gautier <<a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr">antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</a>>; TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br><b>Objet :</b> AW: [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 net energy balance from window to zone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Dear Antoine,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Sounds promising but don</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'>’</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>t forget QABSI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>QSTRNS + QCOMI – QSOUT – QABSI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Best<br>Jakob</span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>__________________________________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Jakob Merk M.Sc.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Transsolar: KlimaEngineering- Technologien für energieeffizientes Bauen und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäuden<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Stuttgart – München – New York – Paris <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Geschäftsführer :Diplom-Ingenieur Matthias Schuler, Diplom-Ingenieur Thomas Auer, Diplom-Physiker Stefan Holst, Diplom-Betriebswirt Dieter Schnelle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 23347, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Steuernummer: 99073/00911,USt-IdNr.: DE 152272639<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'> TRNSYS-users [<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Antoine Gautier via TRNSYS-users<br><b>Gesendet:</b> 29 May 2017 09:12<br><b>An:</b> 'TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org' <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Type 56 net energy balance from window to zone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I am trying to compute the net energy balance from window (glazing + frame, no shading device) to zone using Type 56.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>My best guess would be: QSTRNS + QCOMI – QSOUT.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>1) Does that seem correct to you?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>2) Is there a way to further split QCOMI between convective and longwave radiation parts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thanks a lot for your help<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Antoine 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