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    <p>Issmail,</p>
    <p> TRNSYS 3d serves to define the building's geometry. Once you are
      finished defining the geometry then you move from Trnsys3D to
      TRNBuild where you will define (or modify) the materials that make
      up the walls of the building.</p>
    <p>kind regards,</p>
    <p> David</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/13/2017 08:22, Issmail OUHALLOU
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          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">David,</div>
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              color="#000000">It's clear now, thanks. I need to insulate
              the external wall, and for that I have to compare the
              impact of insulation on thermal comfort, for two cases: <b>1.</b>
              if the insulation (rock wool for instance) is placed
              inside the wall, <b>2.</b> if the insulation is placed
              back of the wall (external side). Is it possible? How to
              do so? The problem caused by the difference between the
              thermal insulation from the outside and the thermal
              insulation from the inside is the effect of the thermal
              bridges ...</font></div>
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              color="#000000"><b>Note:</b> I only use Trnsys3d for
              modeling my building.</font></div>
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              color="#000000">I appologize for my english if it's not
              clear enough cause I only practice this in french. Thanks.</font></div>
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          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best,</div>
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          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ismail </div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-13 12:22 GMT+00:00 David
            BRADLEY <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <p>Issmail,</p>
                <p>  The u value is only one measure of a wall's
                  performance. The other significant part is where the
                  mass is located in the wall. Type56's wall model takes
                  both into account. The u-value is displayed because it
                  is a common measure of wall performance.</p>
                <p>kind regards,</p>
                <p> David</p>
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                      class="gmail-m_-1935802607806906426moz-cite-prefix">On
                      04/13/2017 05:12, Issmail OUHALLOU via
                      TRNSYS-users wrote:<br>
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                          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Dear
                          Trnsys users,</div>
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                          <div>I am wondering if it is possible to
                            compare the thermal performance of thermal
                            insulation on both sides of the wall
                            (internal & external), using TRNBuild
                            and Trnsys3d (TRNSYS 17)! When I change the
                            order of materials, including insulation
                            material, in "wall type" manager/TRNBuild,
                            the U-value does not chage.</div>
                          <div>Does anyone happen to have experience how
                            to simulate the impact of thermal insulation
                            on both sides of the wall?</div>
                          <div>Thanks in advance</div>
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                          <div>best regards,</div>
                          <div>Ismail</div>
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