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<p>Antoine,</p>
<p> I'm not 100% sure that I follow your logic but you can model
that array with a single instance of Type1. If your single module
has an area of 1m2 and wants a flow rate of 400kg/h then the full
array of 50 modules (10 in parallel, 5 in series) would have:</p>
<p>area = 50 m2</p>
<p>number in series = 5</p>
<p>flow rate = 4000kg/h (400kg/h x 10 in parallel)</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p> David</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/20/2016 13:30, Antoine Gautier
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Thanks
David<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Just to be sure…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Considering an array of 50 collectors = 10
parallel-connected rows of 5 series-connected collectors,
total inlet flowrate of array = M, total area = A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">I cannot model the whole array with Type1 only:
I need to add an equation multiplying the flowrate and
energy rate computed by Type1 by the number of rows. Type1
parameters and inputs being the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Number in series=5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Collector area=A/10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Inlet flowrate=M/10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:FR">De :</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:FR"> David
BRADLEY [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 20 octobre 2016 19:24<br>
<b>À :</b> Antoine Gautier
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr"><antoine.gautier@solamen.fr></a>; TRNSYS users mailing
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<b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type1 Number of
identical collectors in series has no effect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Antoine,<span
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<p> This is a common source of confusion. Two points are
important to keep in mind. First, the collector array area
parameter is the area of the entire array, not just the area
of one module in the array. Second, if you add a second
collector you have to be careful about what you do with the
flow rate. If you are adding a second collector in parallel to
the first one you should double the collector array area,
leave the "number in series" parameter set to 1, and double
the liquid flow rate to the array. If you are adding a second
collector in series with the first one, you should double the
collector array area, set the number in series to 2, and leave
the liquid flow rate unchanged.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/20/2016 11:46, Antoine Gautier via
TRNSYS-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">I cannot figure out why the number of
collectors in series has no effect on the collectors array
efficiency: see attached project.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">Computing equations from source code manually
I would state the opposite…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">Thanks for your help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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