<div dir="ltr">Dear,<div><br></div><div>Hi,i'am doing a home in trnbuild , after that i want to add a battery in TRNSYS  alimented with PV panel . The energy provided from the battery must change in the end depending on the consumption of materials !!   I NEED TO SEE HOW THIS ENERGY CAN CHAGE DEPANDING ON DIFFERENT PARAMETR</div><div><br></div><div>Look so easy but i'm still blocked</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-08 21:05 GMT+00:00  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send TRNSYS-users mailing list submissions to<br>
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   1. Type55 (periodic integrator) output6 (???v v)<br>
   2. Re: Battery in PV system (David BRADLEY)<br>
<br><br>---------- Message transféré ----------<br>From: "吴伟伟v v" <<a href="mailto:xiaoweiweiwu@hotmail.com">xiaoweiweiwu@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: "<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:56:51 +0800<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type55 (periodic integrator) output6<br>


<div><div dir="ltr"><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Dear all, <u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white"><br></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">I got a type55 (</span></span><span lang="EN-US">periodic integrator</span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">) output 6’s wrong output.  </span></span><span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:11.5pt">I chose type55 to get the sum of the squares of the input to compute the penalty function</span><span style="font-size:12pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white"> (P71, </span></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px"> </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px">GENOPT</span><span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:11.5pt">user manual)</span><span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:11.5pt">. But
I found that the output6 of the type55 is not it should be, while other results,
such as the minimum value and the mean value are right though.</span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white"><br></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">For example, the only one input for the type55 is from 1, 2,
3, 4, 5, 6, ……….to 24. The simulation step is 1hr, I want to evaluation the
output6 from 8am to 16pm for everyday. T</span></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px">he simulation time from 0 to 24 in the TRNSYS studio.</span><span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:11.5pt">The set of the typer55 parameter is as the
following:</span></p><p><span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:11.5pt"><br></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Integrate or sum input: -1<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Relative starting hour for input    7     hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Duration for input  8     hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Cycle repeat time for input   24    hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Reset time for input      24    hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Absolute starting hour for input  0     hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">Absolute stopping hour for input       24    hr<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><br></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">According to my understand, the output6 of type55 should be:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white"><br></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:微软雅黑,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><font size="2">For the 8<sup>th</sup> hour: 8*8=64<u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><p style="text-indent:23.0pt"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:微软雅黑,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><font size="2">the 9<sup>th</sup>
hour: 8*8+9*9=136<u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><p style="text-indent:23.0pt"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:微软雅黑,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><font size="2">the 10<sup>th</sup>
hour: 8*8+9*9+10*10=236<u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><p style="text-indent:23.0pt"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:微软雅黑,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><font size="2">……………….<u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:微软雅黑,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><font size="2">until add to 8*8+9*9+10*10+……………………+16*16</font><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><p><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"\005fae\008f6f\0096c5\009ed1","sans-serif";color:#444444;background:white">But the output6 of the type55 results was: (from 8<sup>th</sup> to 16<sup>th</sup>
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<br><br>---------- Message transféré ----------<br>From: David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>To: "TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org">trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:fabian.tarsetti@gmail.com">fabian.tarsetti@gmail.com</a><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 13:02:12 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Battery in PV system<br>
  
    
  
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    Fabián,<br>
      The battery models ask you to specify the energy capacity per cell
    (in Ah) and to specify the number of cells in series and in parallel
    that make up the battery bank. Use these parameters to control the
    amount of electrical storage in your system.<br>
    regards,<br>
     David<br>
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    <div>On 12/07/2015 07:47, Fabián Daniel
      Tarsetti Abarca wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi, i'm doing a PV system for a Reverse Osmosis
        Plant. The system consist in a PV, Battery, inverter, regulator,
        pumps, etc. I have problems only in the amount of battery. how
        can put more of a battery?.
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        <div>Thanks for your answer.<br clear="all">
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          <div><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Fabián
                Tarsetti Abarca</b></font><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
            <i style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Estudiante
              Ingeniería Civil Mecánica<br>
              UTFSM CSSJ</i><br>
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