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<p>Hello David and TRNSYS users, </p>
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<p>Thanks David! I will try the alternative tool as well. The run time issue has been solved now, I asked from campus IT help department and they have fixed it. Some kind of administrative permission was required according to their statement.
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<p>Now, I am able to plug in the pv parameters by clicking the magic wand icon in the left lower corner of the parameters tab of (type 194b). also, it calculates all five parameters without any error. Next, after exiting the EES window and when I run it in
simulation studio; it gives following error. </p>
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<p> "type 194 TRNSYS Message 133 : The current Unit has specified more Parameters than are expected. Reported information : 24 PARAMETERS are required and 29 PARAMETERS were specified. "</p>
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<p>how can I tackle this issue. </p>
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<p>Sandeep Chahal, B.Tech</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org; Sandeep Singh Chahal<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] PV inverter 194b</font>
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<div>Sandeep,<br>
My apologies for the delay in responding. Some users have experienced problems using the plugin on certain operating systems and while I have not seen the error that you mention it could be the same problem. I will send you a link to an alternative tool for
generating the Type194 parameters. You will need to run the tool seperately and then manually enter the values that it generates but I have found it to be much more reliable than the plugin.<br>
kind regards,<br>
David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/27/2015 10:43, Sandeep Singh Chahal wrote:<br>
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<pre><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif";"><font size="2">I am trying to modify the pv inverter (type-194b) by clicking on the </font></span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 10pt;">magic wand icon in the lower left corner of the parameters
tab of the </span><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;">proforma).
Next, when I hit calculate it gives this message Visual fortran run-time error “
forrtl:severe (28): CLOSE error, unit 196,file”unknown” DFORRT>DLL 04074BD9
unknown unknown unknown” </span></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span>Can anyone please help; how I can tackle this error?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>Sotiris,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span>
</span>When you choose a PV from the list, all of the fields should still </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>show "?????" until you click on the "calculate" button in the
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>"calculations" section of the plugin. When you manually enter
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>parameters, the same is true; the fields at the bottom for the 5
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>reference parameters should all show "?????" until you choose
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>"calculate". The plugin transfers the computed results back to the
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>proforma if it was able to obtain a good solution once you select "Exit"
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>from the File menu. If the plugin did not solve to within tolerances, it
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>will show you its best guess of the answers but it will not transfer the
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>values back to the plugin automatically. You can transfer them manually
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>if you need to.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span>
</span>If you are having trouble with a particular PV module, please send me </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>the input data. I may be able to generate the parameters for you using a
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>different tool.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>Best,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span>
</span>David</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>On 7/22/2013 03:48, Sotiris Papantoniou wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Dear David and all Trnsys users,</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> The thank you for the information for the inverter, I have managed to
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> find the data for the data file. Coming back to the trnsys plug-in of
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> type 194, the plug-in seems to work in a mysterious way.</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> If I select a specific photovoltaic type from the list no data are
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> available.</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> If I add manually some data on the plug-in, the 5 parameters are
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> identical to example.var's parameters.</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Is there something missing from my plug-in? Am I doing something wrong?</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Thank you</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Sotiris</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> *From:*David BRADLEY [mailto:<a id="LPlnk637654" href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/trnsys-users-onebuilding.org"><span style="color: blue;">d.bradley at tess-inc.com</span></a>]</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:57 PM</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> *To:* TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> *Cc:* Sotiris Papantoniou</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> *Subject:* Re: [TRNSYS-users] Question related to the inverter of type 194</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Sotiris,</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>The file contains the inverter efficiency as a function of the input </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> power (in watts) and the input voltage (in volts). These values are
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> typically published by manufacturers on the inverter specification
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> sheets. If you do not have such a sheet then you can use the example
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> data file and scale the input voltage and power to the range of input
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> voltage and power that you need. Inverters tend to be quite efficient
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> (around 95%) except when the input power is below about 5 to 10% of
</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> the rated input power at which point their efficiency drops quite a lot.</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> Kind regards,</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>David</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> On 7/18/2013 02:28, Sotiris Papantoniou wrote:</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>Hello Trnsys users,</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i> </i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>I am trying to model a pv-system with inverter. I have managed to</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>model the photovoltaic modules using the plug-in, but now I have</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>to model the inverter of the system. The characteristics of the</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>inverter are partly set in the parameters of the type and the</i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span>><i><span>
</span>external file inserted by the user. Where can I find the</i></span></p>
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