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    Idris,<br>
      There are numerous reasons why this might happen. As I mentioned
    in a previous mail if the current ambient wetbulb temperature is
    higher than your desired outlet temperature then the desired outlet
    temperature cannot be achieved. When I mentioned it before it was in
    the context of the design condition not in the context of the
    current conditions but the same physics applies. If you are unable
    to determine the cause of the behavior then I would recommend that
    you send your project to your distributor for assistance. <br>
    regards,<br>
     David<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/2/2015 7:30 AM, Shofolahan, Idris
      Adewale wrote:<br>
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        <p>David,<br>
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        <p>Thank you. Yes,I am trying to achieve an outlet temperature
          set at 8th input and I did set the fan control signal (input
          7) to -1 but, the outlet water temperature is still higher
          than the desired outlet temperature.For example,the desired
          outlet temperature was set at 24C as the 8th input, but the
          outlet fluid temperature was 29C. What is the reason for not
          achieving the desired outlet fluid temperature?<br>
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        <p>Regards<br>
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        <p>Idris<br>
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            color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
            David BRADLEY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com"><d.bradley@tess-inc.com></a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> 01 May 2015 17:04<br>
            <b>To:</b> Shofolahan, Idris Adewale; TRNSYS users mailing
            list at OneBuilding.org<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 510 cooling tower
            -Fan control signal error</font>
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        <div>Idris,<br>
           The design outlet fluid temperature is the outlet fluid
          temperature that you would get if all the inlet conditions
          were at the design condition. The design outlet fluid
          temperature is not a "set point" temperature that the tower is
          trying to achieve. If you are trying to achieve a certain
          outlet temperature then you have to set that temperature as
          the 8th input and you have to set the fan control signal
          (input 7) to -1 (as it says in the "more" buttons for the
          Type). If you are not trying to control the outlet liquid
          temperature but just want it to be closer to the wetbulb
          temperature then you have to increase the air flow rate that
          the fans are providing.<br>
           regards,<br>
            David<br>
           <br>
          <br>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2015 5:45 PM, Shofolahan,
            Idris Adewale wrote:<br>
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              <p>David,<br>
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              <p>Thank you for your response.I have checked the
                parameters as suggested.The design outlet fluid
                temperature was not below the design wet
                bulb temperature. Although,when I reduce the design wet
                bulb temperature,I didn't get any error message.</p>
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              <p>However,the outlet water temperature is higher than the
                design outlet fluid temperature. How can I achieve a
                lower outlet water temperature,probably similar to the <span
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                  outlet </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
                  font-size:16px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fluid
                  temperature or lower?</span><br>
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                  <p>Regards,<br>
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                  <p>Idris<br>
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                    BRADLEY
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                    <b>Sent:</b> 30 April 2015 15:35<br>
                    <b>To:</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at
                    OneBuilding.org; Shofolahan, Idris Adewale<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 510 cooling
                    tower -Fan control signal error</font>
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                <div>Idris,<br>
                    The error message doesn't have to do with the fan
                  control signal. The error is that the model cannot
                  determine the energy transfer coefficients for the
                  tower given the parameters that you have entered. For
                  example, if you give a design outlet fluid temperature
                  that is below the design wet bulb temperature then it
                  is physically impossible for a tower to deliver such
                  an outlet water temperature and the model will
                  generate the error that you received. The fan control
                  signal appears involved because the energy transfer
                  coefficients are only calculated if the tower is
                  actually on and running.<br>
                  regards,<br>
                   David<br>
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                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2015 12:20 AM,
                    Shofolahan, Idris Adewale wrote:<br>
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                    <pre>Dear all,

I'm currently working on a project using a chiller and type 510 cooling tower. The project is given error when the fan control signal is set at 1 at the input tab. What do you think is the cause of this error? Schematics and error message of the project attached.Thank you.

Regards,
Idris

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