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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Renee,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">currently, there is no other solution than running the simulation twice:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">One time only the geometric shading
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">One time the geometric shading and the movable shading.<br>
For the control movable shading the radiation on the windows of a) is used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">You are not the only one requesting this way of control. My college had the same problem.<br>
Therefore, the next update will include another output including geometric external shading effects only.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Marion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:DE">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:DE"> TRNSYS-users [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Renée Cools<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 11:06<br>
<b>An:</b> trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Windows shading - total radiation on a window<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I asked this question before, but no solution yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Is there an output from Trnbuild for the real radiation on a window.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">So with the influence of building overhang but without the influence of a mobile solarscreen?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I have building with a very large trapezium shaped overhang and below 6 windows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">During the day, the shading is different on each window.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Additionally there are mobile solar screens on each window.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">They should close if there is more than 150W/m² on the window.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">If you use the “automatic control” according to window type. There is no “correction” for the large overhang, or nearby buildings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">If you use output 103 en 104 the shading of the mobile solar screen is added each time the screen is down, so they go up on the first timestep, down
 on the next, and then up again..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Output 931 gives you the same as “automatic control”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">How to control each mobile solar screen ? taking into account the large overhang?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL-BE">Met vriendelijke groeten | Cordialement | Kind regards<br>
</span><b><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL-BE"><br>
Renée Cools<br>
Technical engineering - Industrial Environmental Engineer <br>
Industrial Environmental Engineer</span></b><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:NL-BE">
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<b>BURO II & ARCHI+I </b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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