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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I hereby post a late answer to an old issue thanks to Hanisch: see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I take this opportunity to ask a question concerning the </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>2-band radiation calculation. Since non-visual glass properties are computed based on solar and visual properties assuming a constant visual / solar radiation ratio (0.466) I don't understand how a simple calculation with solar properties only (1 band) would lead to different results regarding transmitted solar radiation. By the way when I compute the diffuse transmittance as QSTRNS/QSEXT for QSEXTBeam=0 I get the exact same value as the hemispheric solar transmittance (Tsol Hemis) from the WINDOW data, whatever the value of the visual transmittance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Could you please explain how and why the 2-band calculation could differ from 1-band calculation?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Antoine Gautier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Solamen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>+33 6 58 24 02 60<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'><a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr"><span lang=EN-GB>antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>De :</span></b><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:FR'> jh-ingenieure [</span><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'><a href="mailto:info@jh-ingenieure.de"><span lang=EN-GB>mailto:info@jh-ingenieure.de</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 22 décembre 2014 17:32<br><b>À :</b> 'Antoine Gautier'<br><b>Objet :</b> AW: [TRNSYS-users] Window data generated by Window software lead to Trnsys Warning<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Antonie Gautier,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>our lokal TRNSYS-hotline (Transsolar) told us, that TRNSYS uses a different solar-spectrum as windows.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>So for glazings with high selectivity negative values for visible transmission can accour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>For solving that problem, they advised to make a one-band rather than a two-band calculation for the windows used in TRNSYS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>To do so, in winlib.dat (as well as in prgwin.dat) the angle dependent values for solar-transmission and reflection should be copied to the values of visible transmission and reflection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>In my case the difference between the two-band calculation (with the warning) and the one-band calculation was about 4%.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>The problem should be solved in TRNSYS V18.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Hanisch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'>jh-ingenieure GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'>kiefernweg 31 | 14532 kleinmachnow | t: 033203 87498 | e: <a href="mailto:info@jh-ingenieure.de">info@jh-ingenieure.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Mitglied des Vorstands des AIV zu Berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Prüfsachverständiger für energetische 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Dezember 2014 13:38<br><b>An:</b> 'jh-ingenieure'<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [TRNSYS-users] Window data generated by Window software lead to Trnsys Warning<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi Hanisch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Sorry no further insight on that matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I let it go considering the rather low discrepancy between calculated and maximum value.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>If you get any other information though don't hesitate to let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Antoine Gautier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>Solamen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'>+33 6 58 24 02 60<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#404040;mso-fareast-language:FR'><a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr">antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'>De :</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:FR'> jh-ingenieure [<a href="mailto:info@jh-ingenieure.de">mailto:info@jh-ingenieure.de</a>] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> dimanche 7 décembre 2014 21:06<br><b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:antoine.gautier@solamen.fr">antoine.gautier@solamen.fr</a><br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Window data generated by Window software lead to Trnsys Warning<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Dear Mr. Gautier,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>I have the same Problem with TRNSYS as you reported in the TRNSYS-mailing-list in April (see below).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Did you find a solution?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>If so, would you be so kind to tell me your way to solve the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Thanking you in anticipation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Wit best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Mit freundlichen Grüßen</span><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'> 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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#7F7F7F;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Auditor für nachhaltiges Bauen (DGNB)</span><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Dear users<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>I get the following warnings using window data generated by Window software<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>6.3. I do not get any error during window data generation. Do you know what<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>I should correct? (I included the detailed window data hereunder.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Thanks a lot for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>*** Notice at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Generated by Unit : 27<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Generated by Type : 56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Message : winlib reader: Incorrect visual transmission<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>values encountered in Window-ID 116. for an angle of 0 °.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Incorrect value 0.603 will be limited to the possible physically maximum<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>0.561! Please check your window data!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>*** Notice at time : 0.000000<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Generated by Unit : 27<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Generated by Type : 56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Message : winlib reader: incorrect selectivity of<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>visual+solar transmission caused a negative value for nonvisual Transmission<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Tra_ang_nonvis = -0.026 for Window-ID 116 at an angle of 0 °<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Tra_ang_nonvis is set to 0 for this angle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>