<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Hi Nick,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.399999618530273px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.399999618530273px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span class="" style="">Last week, I posted a thread titled</span><span class="" style=""> </span><span class="" style="">[Calculated horizontal beam exceeded the provided total radiation ERROR]</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; line-height: 35px; white-space: nowrap; font-size: 14pt;"
class=""> </span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; line-height: 35px; white-space: nowrap; font-size: 14pt;" class=""></span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class="">about similar warnings in the type 15. Also, </span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Ciarán Flynn posted a </span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">thr</span><span class="" style="background-color: transparent;">ead titled </span><span class="" style="font-size: 14pt; background-color: transparent;">[Possible data error in TM2 Weather File and circumventing solar radiation error messages] about similar error.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14pt; background-color: transparent;"><br class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;">I changed the time step in the example [Begin] to 1 min and I got the warning, as can be seen in the attached screenshot Fig <span class="" id="yiv7777633460a938056f-0974-4eb9-a32f-d98d51ebfdd2" style=""><span id="3291a9ec-61ad-40da-a937-741fdfca2dd1" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fbda102c-8fbf-4aa7-81e3-c52e37e53242" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">a</span></span>, while there was no warning at time step 20 min.</div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;">Also, I replaced type 15-6 to 15-2 with the same "tm2" file in the example and I got the same warning.</div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="background-color:
transparent;">Then, I replaced the tm2 file by Miami, USA tm2 file and I got two errors in the horizontal extraterrestrial radiation and the horizontal beam radiation, as can be seen in Fig b. </div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><br></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="background-color: transparent;" class="">I thought that the problem </span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><span id="3d2d67ef-63b5-4048-985e-5d69cdef105a" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="f1179f46-3d89-4858-9555-b37fe70d2a2c" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">in</span></span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class=""> the type 15-6, exactly in the </span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class="">processing</span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class=""> of
the horizontal radiations (beam, diffuse and global). But, I got similar warnings when the time step was changed to 1 min in the example [radiation processing] that uses type 9e and 16i, as in the Fig c.</span></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br></span></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;">I didn't try type 109 that was available in TRNSYS 16 and I don't know that the TRNSYS 17 accepts that type.</div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><br></div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;">Kind regards,</div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;">Shahen</div><div class="" style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;
background-color: transparent;" class=""><br class="" style=""></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.399999618530273px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""> <span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">On Monday, August 4, 2014 9:25 PM, "trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org" <trnsys-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> </div> <br class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Today's Topics:<br class="" style=""><br
class="" style=""> 1. Type 15-6, short <span id="ac84bd3b-c99e-468c-919e-87d73bb47a32" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="e90f05b5-4070-4b99-9461-311fe23910d3" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span>, weather data generated by<br class="" style=""> <span id="2b782b9f-65c9-4541-a0fd-7351c291bf66" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="4a769afd-1386-4abd-89f3-2bb147e6175a" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">meteonorm</span> for arbitrary longitude/latitude (Nikos Androulakis)<br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">Hello all,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> I'm having some problems using weather data type 15-6 with short <br class="" style=""><span id="aac35a0a-d143-408e-bfa6-4bf00c34d81e" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fb5585e4-1abf-4534-8a36-13121e43da5f" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timesteps</span> (e.g. <span id="970344b4-4357-4d21-8e16-964322ab5789"
ginger_software_uiphraseguid="9664df13-117d-47f8-98c8-8fb3c85be774" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">one</span> minute). I'm using two different <span id="32b00282-6b9f-4eab-8884-98824a10ae1c" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="c84966d2-e593-4076-92d4-43212ed8becf" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">meteonorm</span> files for <br class="" style=""><span id="d8e34876-acba-4495-913f-9d2b18d3c307" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="389eff01-4346-4ee4-8640-8068c0b3e933" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">two</span> different locations. One of them (GR-Thessaloniki-166220) is <br class="" style=""><span id="bf0f588a-f30a-4024-b46a-1dc237db7502" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="90f9a6c7-3739-4e14-aac3-de0ffc479870" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">available</span> in the lists of <span id="94b3a2a9-7930-461c-906b-c1be7e33c4b2" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="90f9a6c7-3739-4e14-aac3-de0ffc479870" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">trnsys</span> and the
other one (GR-Megali Panagia) <br class="" style=""><span id="a57efc8c-5a9e-4539-b860-1df3b7bcd04a" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="63fa5b51-4473-4f08-a26e-7bcd5e71dd6e" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">was</span> generated using Meteonorm. When the time step is set to one hour <br class="" style=""><span id="981750ee-85e0-4fec-bb04-0ccc7fcebafc" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="3bdfec00-bf73-47f3-83c7-1a4d7a1dc5cd" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">there</span> is no problem. On the other hand, when the <span id="780799df-a876-4a9e-8159-74a5bd915180" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="24bfaed0-70af-4477-a970-a463c86b1d20" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span> is set to one <br class="" style=""><span id="0e8bca50-d86e-4928-a5d9-53f650701ff1" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="b1f9b994-c8d7-4ed3-a12c-2a368bbdb3d0" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">minute</span>, there are warnings (calculated beam radiation exceeded maximum) <br class=""
style=""><span id="2d1d9d7a-5c38-481a-866f-81f377a1aea9" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="8163beda-863f-47cf-b8a0-817e6f2df0a8" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">only</span> in the second case (Megali Panagia). I replaced type15-6 with <br class="" style="">type109 and there are no warnings <span id="6e8fef65-e017-45c0-8072-81d321751357" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="e9f717ed-fb54-4c6a-a53e-4cc5ae2f2b61" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">in</span> any of the four cases <span id="f6d0ff3d-7597-4a88-beec-443c3adbdd77" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="e9f717ed-fb54-4c6a-a53e-4cc5ae2f2b61" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">( </span><span id="f0185f3e-d00a-4d7e-8662-caf9682efec0" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="e9f717ed-fb54-4c6a-a53e-4cc5ae2f2b61" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">1)</span>long <br class="" style=""><span id="4722f0a6-f089-4438-bd9f-6b6ddaa4cd5d" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fb49d0fe-978d-4bd9-8d4c-31820eb362e0"
class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span>-Thessaloniki<span id="03413254-a119-404c-a043-4b7a0eb7c5e1" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fb49d0fe-978d-4bd9-8d4c-31820eb362e0" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style=""> ,</span>2) long <span id="dfe91048-6c65-457a-a649-604cfc4e480e" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fb49d0fe-978d-4bd9-8d4c-31820eb362e0" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span>-Megali Panagia, <span id="75038cef-b0e7-4308-9a97-3d30ed223f0d" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="fb49d0fe-978d-4bd9-8d4c-31820eb362e0" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">3)</span>short <br class="" style=""><span id="6c619bb8-5334-4161-8aa9-5f4eaa92fadc" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="7829c9b9-9037-408f-809d-8365071d8a01" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span>-Thessaloniki, 4) short <span id="fb827f60-c879-4bd7-95ad-c4f562720085" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="7829c9b9-9037-408f-809d-8365071d8a01" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark"
style="">timestep</span>-Megali Panagia). I would like <br class="" style=""><span id="75437ac2-33fe-43e9-b10e-c364605ba464" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="9cc2b772-f1b5-4f06-823b-92153ba61f31" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">to</span> ask the reason this is happening and if <span id="fa3ea7c4-b3a9-42ce-aae1-2f1c2962b74d" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="9cc2b772-f1b5-4f06-823b-92153ba61f31" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">i</span> can use, without having any <br class="" style=""><span id="b2f13e04-8776-439e-8ce9-ca0e192a2173" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="9bdefa62-bcab-40e6-b259-360fc3ba3b27" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">doubts</span>, type 109 with short <span id="e3579b0a-c9de-44c2-ae8c-7a1931e3ca7b" ginger_software_uiphraseguid="9bdefa62-bcab-40e6-b259-360fc3ba3b27" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">timestep</span> and using the external file <br class="" style=""><span id="490a7835-a896-48fc-8872-15abad1012ee"
ginger_software_uiphraseguid="aa35fa54-6afc-49cc-827d-e110f922a77d" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark" style="">generated</span> for Megali Panagia.<br class="" style="">Thank you in advance.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Kind regards,<br class="" style="">Nick Androulakis.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><div id="yiv3420789147" class="" style=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div></div></div> </div> </div> </div> <style type="text/css" class="" style=""><!--#yiv3420789147 p {margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;}--></style><style type="text/css" class="" style=""><!--#yiv3420789147 p {margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;}--></style></div></body></html>