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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Cédric,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">are you familiar with building model Type 56?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If yes you can use it to calculate the diffuse shading acc. to a Perez sky.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If not is maybe too complicated to explain everything correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">For Type 56 you can generate a shading maks by TRNbuild after drawing your “building” including shaders in SketchUp.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Your “building” would be a box with a sloped roof and a roof window representing you collector row.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The row in front of the collector row is defined as “shader”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">You need to use the option “internal radiation calculation” for the roof orientation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">For the roof window you can select the output “incident diffuse radiation including shading effects” .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">This output divided by the area would be the input for your collector model.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>PAULUS Cedric 217865<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 31. März 2014 17:40<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] Collector array shading Type 30 and radiation model</span></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:
10.0pt">Dear TRNSYS-Users,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt">I would like to use the type of collector array shading between rows (type 30) connected to a weather data reading and processing (type 15) in order to simulate
performance of large scale solar collector field.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt">I made some first check only with one row in order to find normally the same results as without collector shading. The beam radiation is the same (normal) but the
total radiation is lower due to a lower diffuse radiation (not normal). When I check the type 30 model it seems that an isotropic sky model has been implemented in order to calculate the diffuse radiation. Am I right ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt">As I prefer to use the Perez 1999 Model (5 for the parameter “Tilted Surface Radiation Mode” of type 15), I would like to know if this model was or is planned to
be implemented in the type 30 ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="gray" face="Calibri"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold">Cédric Paulus<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="gray" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:gray">CEA INES – DTBH/SBRT/LSHT | +33 (0)4 79 79 21 17<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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