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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">for the first step I recommend to use the internal ideal convective cooling model of Type 56.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Check the manual 05-MultizoneBuilding.pdf section 5.2.4.7. The cooling load is given as an<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Type 56 output.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">trnsys-users</st1:PersonName>-bounces@cae.wisc.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">trnsys-users</st1:PersonName>-bounces@cae.wisc.edu</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Tung Nguyen Huy<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014 03:58<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">trnsys-users</st1:PersonName>@cae.wisc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 110, Issue 12</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Dear All, especially Marion and David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">First of all, thank you so much for your kindness. I deeply appreciate your help. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Ultimately, I could figure out those errors by following your instructions. However, I found that I only need to capitalize all the names of zones in Google Schetchup pro
while I create new zones. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Now, I have another
<span class="gingersoftwaremark"><span id="79506424-cf22-4c2b-9b4a-c3da9f13bb44">confusion</span></span> about TRNSYS. I need to compute the COOLING LOAD for an apartment. How can I simulate it? Which types should I use to simulate? Because I saw many types
in the TRNSYS Simulation Studio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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1. Re: Error reading buifile (David BRADLEY)<br>
2. Re: Error reading buifile (<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marion Hiller</st1:PersonName>)<br>
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From: David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a>><br>
To: "TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>>,
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:11:28 -0600<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Huy Tung,<br>
There isn't much in the way of tools to help debug an *.idf file that isn't importing correctly into TRNBuild. I have not gotten the exact error message that you mentioned but I have gotten similar ones. The import feature in TRNBuild almost always creates
a complete *.b17 file (even if it won't open the *.b17 fully). I would recommend that you open the *.b17 with a text editor (such as Notepad) and see if you can locate the surface that is causing you the error then go back to SketchUp, delete the corresponding
surface and redraw it.<br>
In general it is highly recommended that you draw your building one zone at a time, match surfaces, then import the building into TRNBuild after each new zone is drawn. It becomes increasingly difficult to go back and find an error in the Trnsys3D plugin.
By importing after drawing each new zone you make sure that you catch the error early.
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Of course if you are unable to find the cause of the error you can send the *.idf to your distributor for assistance.<br>
Kind regards,<br>
David<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On 2/9/2014 02:03, Tung Nguyen Huy wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">I made the house model by Google Sketchup Pro and match the surfaces by SURFACE MATCHING tool. However, when I use TRNSYS Simulation Studio to run the *.idf file. It
notices an ERROR READING BUIFILE - "WALL SURFACE NUMBER IS NOT UNIQUE".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Please help me how to fix or how to avoid those errors. I met those errors many times, so I cannot do my work further. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">David BRADLEY<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Principal<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thermal Energy Systems Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">22 North Carroll Street - suite 370<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">P:<a href="tel:%2B1.608.274.2577" target="_blank" value="+16082742577">+1.608.274.2577</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">F:<a href="tel:%2B1.608.278.1475" target="_blank" value="+16082781475">+1.608.278.1475</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com" target="_blank">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marion Hiller</st1:PersonName> <Hiller@Transsolar.com><br>
To: "TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison" <<a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>><br>
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:33:42 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">Huy Tung,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">Did you draw the model using the plugin Trnsys3d?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">If you draw a surface in Trnsys3d it gets automatically assigned
a “name” which is an arbitrary combination of numbers and characters.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">This field isn’t an input and shouldn’t be modified by the user
in order to avoid errors.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">During the import in the Trnsys Studio, the *.idf file is translated
into a *.b17 file and thereby the surface names are converted into</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">unique surface IDs.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">The error messages shows you the zone and airnode name and the
surface ID which is causing the error. I would recommend that you open the b17 error</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">In a text editor and search for the surface ID and replace it
by an unique number.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Marion</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Tung Nguyen Huy<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 9. Februar 2014 09:04<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I made the house model by Google Sketchup Pro and match the surfaces by SURFACE MATCHING tool. However, when
I use TRNSYS Simulation Studio to run the *.idf file. It notices an ERROR READING BUIFILE - "WALL SURFACE NUMBER IS NOT UNIQUE".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Nguyen, Huy Tung<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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