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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Yasmina.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it can be interesting in case you choose the “internal calculation” option in TRNBUILD for the heat transfer coefficient, and you want to know its value. Otherwise the output value must be the same that you entered as an input value.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:black'>Juan Francisco Belmonte Toledo</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:black'>Dpto. de Mecánica Aplicada e Ing. de Proyectos</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:black'>Universidad de Castilla-La Mancha</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:black'><a href="mailto:Juanf.belmonte@uclm.es">Juanf.belmonte@uclm.es</a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:maroon'>Escuela de Ingenieros Industriales</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:maroon'>Campus Universitario s/n, 02071, Albacete</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>Instituto de Investigación en Energías Renovables</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>Sección de Eficiencia Energética y Sistemas Térmicos (ENERSYS)</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>C/ de la Investigación, s/n, 02071, Albacete</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:green'>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Linux Libertine";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu] <b>En nombre de </b>yasmina.el-hasnaoui@cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com<br><b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 24 de enero de 2014 10:03 a.m.<br><b>Para:</b> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] The Front convective Heat Transfer Coefficient of Wall in TYPE 56<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Mika, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you for you quick answer. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the TRNSYS manual (<i>chapter 5 –MultizoneBuilding page 5-34</i>) , it’s written that the HCONVI unit is [kJ/hm2K]. 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??<br><b>Envoyé :</b> Freed 24 jannewaris 2014 9:42<br><b>À :</b> TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [TRNSYS-users] The Front convective Heat Transfer Coefficient of Wall in TYPE 56<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Dear Yasumina,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>I think HCONVI is not a heat transfer coefficient [kJ/hm2K] but a heat transfer rate [kJ/h] from the selected surfce.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Mika<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>==================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Mika Yoshinaga<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Associate Prof. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>Meijo University, Japan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><a href="mailto:yoshi@meijo-u.ac.jp">yoshi@meijo-u.ac.jp</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>==================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR>2014/1/24 <<a href="mailto:yasmina.el-hasnaoui@cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com" target="_blank">yasmina.el-hasnaoui@cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Dear TRNSYS users, </span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Does anybody know what is the difference between the front convective Heat Transfer Coefficient that you enter in type 56 and the type 56’s output called NType 108 : HCONVI ( eff.inside cinv. Heat transfer coeff (FRONT) ) ?</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Kind regards,</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#58595B'>Yasmina EL HASNAOUI</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#58595B'>Ingénieure Calculs</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#58595B'>Pôle Process Industriel</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#58595B'>Semic</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#58595B'>ad</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br><br><img border=0 width=218 height=76 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CF18ED.2FB17AF0" alt="cid:image001.jpg@01CD9B35.D07198D0"><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>123 avenue Barthélémy Buyer</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>69005 Lyon – France</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tel : <a href="tel:%2B33%20%280%29%20426%2010%2066%2094" target="_blank">+33 (0) 426 10 66 94</a></span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:yasmina.el-hasnaoui@cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com" target="_blank">yasmina.el-hasnaoui@cofelyaxima-gdfsuez.com</a></span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cofely Axima et OMEGA Concept, des marques de la société AXIMA Concept</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><a href="http://www.omega-concept-gdfsuez.com" target="_blank">www.omega-concept-gdfsuez.com </a></span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=FR style='font-family:Webdings;color:#009F82'>P</span><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#009F82'> Pensez à l’environnement avant d’imprimer ce message.</span></b><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR><br>_______________________________________________<br>TRNSYS-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu">TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu</a><br><a href="https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users" target="_blank">https://mailman.cae.wisc.edu/listinfo/trnsys-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>