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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Remon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The operative temperature is calculated depending on whether you’ve defined a comfort position or simply used the operative temperature of the
airnode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The simple calculation is based on an area weigted mean radiant temperature calculation (in this case the mean radiant temperature is the same
for every airnode in your zone) and parameter 3 weighting factor for operative temperature. The default value is 0.5 i.e. the mean radiant temperature and the temperature of the airnode is Weighted 50:50 in the operative temperature calculation.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The detailed calculation is based on the defined position and is calculated considering the viewfactors. This only works when you set up your model
with TRNSYS 3D (geometrical information is needed).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You might check the manual chapter 5.4.6 for further information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Jochen Lam<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">TRNSYS Software Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Email: <a href="mailto:jlam@transsolar.com"><span style="color:blue">jlam@transsolar.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Remon Lapisa<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014 13:48<br>
<b>An:</b> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu; David BRADLEY<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [TRNSYS-users] The center node operative temperature of multi air nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Hallo every one,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I</span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"> would to
<span class="hps">realize</span> a temperature stratification <span class="hps">model of</span>
<span class="hps">monozone building with 12 pcs of air nodes. I would like to know how TRNSYS 17 (type 56) calculates the operative temperature of the center node (not in contact with roof and floor). Is the radiation part of surfaces (i.e floor,roof) from
others air nodes has been included in operative temperature calculation of this middle node ?</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I am very happy if some one would like to share the information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><br>
remon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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