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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is a question that I am also unclear on. I took a look through the archive and was unable to find anything helpful. Hopefully someone is able to provide an answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pauline GELIN<br><b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2013 1529<br><b>To:</b> trnsys-users<br><b>Subject:</b> [TRNSYS-users] Persistent questioning about window definition in WINDOW6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>W</span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>hen I use a glass</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <span class=hps>that I had created</span> <span class=hps>from</span> <span class=hps>WINDOW6</span> <span class=hps>software</span>, <span class=hps>it turned out</span> <span class=hps>that the</span> <span class=hps>Uwindow value, deduced from the B4_QT output doesn’t</span> <span class=hps>correspond to</span> <span class=hps>what I expected</span>, when I calculated it with <span class=hps>the</span> <span class=hps>Ug</span> <span class=hps>value</span> <span class=hps>shown in the database TRNBUILD, the </span>percentage frame and Uframe filled in <span class=hps>TRNBUILD</span>.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>After many tests, it appears that the Uwindow calculated differs if I take a glazing created in WINDOW6</span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> (</span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>for which I didn’t give any information of spacer in order to change this in the TRNBUILD project) or </span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>a </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>glazing initially given in the TRNBUILD database</span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>While </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Uframe percentage and spacer values indicated in my database windows are the same.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does anyone know where </span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>does </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>this difference come from</span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>? <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What values of Uframe</span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>, </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>and percentage </span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>frame and </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>spacer</span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>, does </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>TRNBUILD consider </span></span><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>: </span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>those entries in the database glazings or those filled in the database window that is created for each project?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Then, also with a test of 100% glazing window, if I use a glass type I created with WINDOW 6 without frame and spacer (because I want to choose after the spacer and the frame in TRNBUILD), which is shown in WINID with a indicative Ug of 1.07 W/m²K, correct value for this type, when I look the outputs Uwin and B4_QT, these ones give me a Uglass of only 0.57 W/m²K !<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Could you explain to me what I did wrong? And more especially, how TRNSYS could calculate this value?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks a lot in advance for all your answers. <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Best regards,</span></span><span class=hps><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pauline GELIN<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ingénieur Conception environnementale<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><img width=79 height=52 id="Image_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEAC9F.E71DCAF0" alt="cid:image004.jpg@01CE062A.F4C2C000"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=81 height=13 id="Image_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CEAC9F.E71DCAF0" alt="cid:image006.jpg@01CE062A.F4C2C000"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>10 avenue des canuts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>69120 VAULX EN VELIN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>T : 04.37.45.33.33 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ligne directe : 04.37.45.33.47<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.katene.coop"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.katene.coop</span></b></a></span><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.quadriplus-groupe.com"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.quadriplus-groupe.com</span></b></a></span><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.woopa.coop"><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>www.woopa.coop</span></b></a><b> <o:p></o:p></b></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>