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It’s working.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Max<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Maxence BUREAU</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Ingénieur de Recherche<br>Qualité d'Air Intérieur<br></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=130 style='width:97.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img width=100 height=100 id="Image_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CE39FE.892C6EB0" alt=Cofely><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Centre de recherche Cylergie</b><br>L'Orée d'Ecully - Bât. 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McDowell<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Executive Vice President<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thermal Energy System Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>22 N Carroll St, Suite 370<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Madison, WI 53703<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>608-274-2577<o:p></o:p></pre></div><p>On 2013-04-15 02:44, <a href="mailto:maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com">maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your answer Timothy,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I try to change the design ambient air temperature to 26.67, but it isn’t run (all other design parameters have their default value). Maybe I forget something, but I don’t know what.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Maxence BUREAU</span></strong><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Ingénieur de Recherche<br>Qualité d'Air Intérieur<br></span><span style='color:#1F497D'>______________________________________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=130 style='width:97.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CE39FE.892C6EB0" alt=Cofely></span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Centre de recherche Cylergie</span></strong><br>L'Orée d'Ecully - Bât. C - Chemin de la Forestière<br>69130 - ECULLY<br>tel. +33472860934 - fax +33478433959<br>Mob. +33637613217<br><a href="mailto:maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com">mailto:maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com</a><br><a href="http://www.cofely-gdfsuez.fr">www.cofely-gdfsuez.fr</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#33CC00'>Before printing, think about the environment / Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu">mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De la part de</span></strong> <a href="mailto:mcdowell@tess-inc.com">mcdowell@tess-inc.com</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Envoyé :</span></strong> jeudi 11 avril 2013 21:36<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>À :</span></strong> TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Objet :</span></strong> Re: [TRNSYS-users] Problem with Dry Fluid Cooler (type 511)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Maxence -<o:p></o:p></p><p>You are correct, there is a problem with the default values in the Type511 Proforma. If you change the Design Ambient Air Temperature to 26.67 C it should run.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Tim<o:p></o:p></p><div><pre>---<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Timothy P. McDowell<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Executive Vice President<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thermal Energy System Specialists, LLC<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>22 N Carroll St, Suite 370<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Madison, WI 53703<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>608-274-2577<o:p></o:p></pre></div><p>On 2013-04-10 03:20, <a href="mailto:maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com">maxence.bureau@cofely-gdfsuez.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I would like to use <span style='color:#1F497D'>a</span> type <span style='color:#1F497D'>511</span> (<span style='color:#1F497D'>HVAC Library (TESS) – Dry Fluid Cooler)</span>, but it doesn't work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When <span style='color:#1F497D'>the value of input 2 (fluid flow rate) is higher than 0</span>,<span style='color:#1F497D'> the simulation doesn’t work and an error message appear (“TRNSYS errors : one error was found in the deck…”).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have this error message in "list file" :<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><em>"<span style='color:#1F497D'>*** Fatal Error at time : 0.125000</span></em><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><em><span style='color:#1F497D'> Generated by Unit : 10</span></em><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><em><span style='color:#1F497D'> Generated by Type : 511</span></em><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><em><span style='color:#1F497D'> Message : The dry cooler model was unable to correctly calculate the number of transfer units (NTU) for the design condition. Please check the design conditions carefully.</span>"</em><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I tested the type with the defaults design conditions, but it was the same error message. I think there is a problem with input 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please find attached my “.tpf” file.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your help.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Maxence BUREAU</span></strong><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Ingénieur de Recherche<br></span>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=130 style='width:97.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Centre de recherche Cylergie</span></strong><br>L'Orée d'Ecully - Bât. 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