<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Second that. However for inexperienced simulants I would highly recommend DesignBuilder for building CFD studies. It's cuboid modelling grid combined with full energyplus Air Flow Network boundry condition generation and super user interface, remains the most rewarding building CFD package today. Free 30 day trial and student licensing options.</div><div><br></div><div>I usually avoid advertising speak, but in this case IMO there is for our friend no alternative. Like David said Trnsys coupling with COMMIS or FLUIENT is not for beginners and actually even crack definition and CFD boundary condition setup is very technical.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this can help.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 14.03.2013, at 04:55, Matt Duffy <<a href="mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com">duffy@tess-inc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>You are a patient saint, DB...<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:29 PM, David BRADLEY <<a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com"><a href="mailto:d.bradley@tess-inc.com">d.bradley@tess-inc.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Jihad,<br>
CFD stands for Computational Fluid Dynamics. CFD Software packages
are highly complex and seek to determine air flows by breaking up
air volumes into millions and millions of finite elements; each
finite element's momentum is described by the Navier Stokes
equations. While TRNSYS can connect with Fluent (one particular CFD
tool), it does not have a CFD package built in. Cosimulation between
TRNSYS and a CFD is a very rarely used technique and is almost never
used in building simulation because of the enormous time needed to
solve the flow problem. <br>
<br>
I think it would be wise to find a TRNSYS expert who can assist you
in defining the problem that you want to simulate and to determine
whether you really need to know the speed of air flowing through
your building. If interzonal air flows are needed at all then
simplified approaches are used (TRNFlow, CONTAM, etc.). I want to
stress, however, that even these simplified techniques are quite
complicated to implement, are not for TRNSYS beginners and more
often than not, are unnecessary except for complex spaces such as
atria and for natural ventilation studies. <br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
David<br>
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