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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Marion and Others<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I try to improve my file on myself. It seems to me that it is prepared well, but results are still strange:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Building with surrounding buildings has only a little higher heating demand but there is no difference in solar gains for each version (with and without surrounding buildings).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I use ntype 74 for solar radiation gains.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I enclose .bui files and .idf files exported form TRNBuild (Mnr8_alone is from MNr8, and Mnr8_shading is from Mnr8_3D_sh)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I will be grateful for your time and hints!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Karol<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Karol Bandurski </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>MSc.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PL style='color:#1F497D;background:white'><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/" target="_top"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;background:white'>Poznan University of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PL style='color:#1F497D;background:white'><a href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/"><span lang=EN-US>www.ee.put.poznan.pl</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PL style='color:#1F497D;background:white'><a href="http://www.put.poznan.pl/">www.put.poznan.pl</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marion Hiller [mailto:hiller@transsolar.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> karol.bandurski<br><b>Cc:</b> trnsys-us</span><span lang=PL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>ers<br><b>Subject:</b> AW: radiation and shadow, type 56<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Karol,</span><span lang=DE> </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>No this is impossible.</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>However, the bui files aren’t the same, especially the geometric part of the </span>Mnr8_sh <span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>contains only geometric information of 2 zones</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>BATHROOM and HALL.</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Also the calculated volume isn’t the same.</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>It looks like all the zones with the GEOMODE=MIXED are missing. How did you create shading file?</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I repaired you shading file concerning the geometry. Are the results now ok?</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Best,</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Marion</span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#005A00'>Dipl.-Ing. Marion Hiller </span></b><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#009900'><br></span></b><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#007000'>TRANSSOLAR: KlimaEngineering - Technologien für energieeffizientes Bauen und Nutzerkomfort in Gebäude </span></b><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#005A00'><br>Munich - New York - Stuttgart + 49.711.67976.0 <br><br></span></b><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Transsolar Energietechnik GmbH, Curiestrasse 2, 70563 Stuttgart <br>Amtsgericht Stuttgart - HRB 23347, Steuernummer 99073/00911, USt-IdNr.: DE152272639</span></b><span lang=DE> <span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Geschäftsführer: Dipl.Ing. Matthias Schuler, Dipl.Ing. Thomas Auer, Dipl.Phys. Stefan Holst, Prof. Dipl.-Ing. Bleicher </span></b><span lang=DE> </span><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:navy'> </span><span lang=DE> </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Karol Bandurski [<a href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl">mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 00:24<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>; Marion Hiller<br><b>Betreff:</b> radiation and shadow, type 56</span><span lang=DE> </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PL>Dear All,</span><span lang=PL> </span><span lang=PL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PL><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have two .bui files of the building. The first file is assumes that there is no buildings next to consider one( Mnr8), the second file contain shadow zone of surrounding buildings (Mnr8_sh). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The energy demand are higher for version with building shadow zone –it seems OK. But I am looking for solar radiation that reach building windows in each case, so I use NTYPE 69 or 74 (it is ok???). And the problem is that the building with shadow has higher values of those NTYPE then the building without shadow. How it is possible??? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I will be grateful for any hints! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regard, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Karol <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>