<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear Users, <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>For those of you who usesTYPE15 (for EPW weather data) in TRNSYS 16. <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Does TYPE 15 shift the solar radiation to the
middle of the hour when interpolation is performed? or uses the weather data by the end of an hour and linearly perform the interpolation? <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Thnaks,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Saleh <br></span></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> saleh saadi <salehsnjsaadi404@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> waseem khan <waseemshahkhan@gmail.com>; "trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" <trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:15 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Weather Data Reader Type15 <br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv4942238"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Thanks Waseem, <br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>It is not about a specific weather file. <br></span></div><div><span>I'm developing my own weather model reader and processor in Simulink. I have used
results from E+ to verify my model but seems to be off at some times . So, I used TRNSYS _16, TYPE 15 to determine the solar radiation on south vertical surface using Perez model and compared that to my Simulink and E+ results. I figured that TYPE 15 interpolates the weather file (even at 1 hour time step) and therefore can't use it for verification. I was expecting that TYPE15 will read the weather file without interpolation when time step is 1 hr. Is there a way with
this type or others to get the values at the beginning (or end ) of each hour rather than interpolating values at the mid of the hour?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Thanks,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Saleh <br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times
new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> waseem khan <waseemshahkhan@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> salehsnjsaadi404@yahoo.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:56 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 94, Issue 30<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv4942238">Dear saleh saadi,<div><br></div><div>Salam, Please let me know the weather file name ?<br><br><div class="yiv4942238gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:52 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:trnsys-users-request@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank"
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1. Weather Data Reader Type15 (saleh saadi)<br>
2. Re: Fwd: Converging error (hotline)<br>
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Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:38:45 -0700 (PDT)<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Weather Data Reader Type15<br><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;"><div>Dear user, <br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">I'm trying to extract some weather data from TRNSYS -16 after reading and processing EPW file using Pereze model (time step 1 hr). I have noticed that this TYPE interpolates the variables including the air temperature. Is there a way to extract the data without interpolation using this type or others?</div>
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regards,</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Saleh ALSaadi <br></div></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:21:53 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: Converging error<br>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Ok. Please always include
the TRNSYS release number .<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Default values NEED to be
adapted to your data!<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data,
this Error disappeared! <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">As I mentioned previous,
there must be an error in your data file. Link the outputs to the online/printer
for checking<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">4) Yes</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">, The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building </span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">now</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> for my simulation.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB">, <u></u><u></u></span>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">For a successive method
all input data types should be placed at the beginning. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Check the component order
and rearrange it.<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 10. Oktober
2012 13:37<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <u></u>hotline<u></u><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> trnsys-users<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Fwd: Converging error</span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear Marion,<br>
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Many thanks for your patient reply!<br>
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1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br>
2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br>
3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data, this Error disappeared!
But my Userdefined weather data is <font color="#3333ff"><span style="color:#3333ff;">TRN/TRY weather data</span></font>. Why does it result in
aforementioned Errors (Converging error by my past emails)? <br>
If I must use our own<font color="#3333ff"><span style="color:#3333ff;"> TRN/TRY
weather data</span></font>, how to avoid this Converging error?<br>
4) Yes</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">, The data reader Type 9
is placed after the building </span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">now</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> for my simulation.</span></font>, Do you mean
Type 9 should be placed before the Building Type 56? Is Better?<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
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Br.<br>
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wang<u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">2012/10/10 <u></u>hotline<u></u> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Dear Wang,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">there are several issues within your simulation
concerning the outside longwave exchange of external surfaces</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">You didn’t connect
TSGRD such that it is set 0 => If you have no information set it Tamb</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">2.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">For Sky temperature
calculation with Type 69, you forgot to enter the height above sea level. </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">3.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">You read the ambient
temperature and the relative air humditiy from a userdefined file by type 9 <br>
instead of using the data from the weather file. <br>
This file wasn’t attached, but it might be an error source especially
when interpolating incorrect data.<br>
For testing, please use the ambient temperature and rel. humidity from the
assigned weather file throughout your simulation.<br>
Please check your userdefined data and the outputs of Type 9 WITHOUT connecting
them to TYPE 56.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">4.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition, please check
the component order. The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Marion</span></font><u></u><u></u><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">王洋</span></font><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wanghongyang1767@gmail.com">wanghongyang1767@gmail.com</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 8. Oktober 2012
15:31<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>;
<u></u>hotline<u></u><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Fwd: Converging error</span></font>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear Marion and TRNSYS Users,<br>
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Thanks for your reply!<br>
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I checked all you mentioned, I can't find any special/abnormal settings. Furthermore,
it runs well when the time step is 1 hour. For other steps e.g. 0.1 h, 0.2 h or
0.5 h, it appears that ERROR.<br>
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Please help me have a look at the attached project if you are free.<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
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br.<br>
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wang <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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Subject: Converging error<br>
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Wang,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition
settings:</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1- TAMB</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">4- TSGRD</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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emissitive is ≤ 1</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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convective heat transfer coefficient ist set to reasonable value</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give
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1. Re: problem with iterations?? (<u></u>Matt
Duffy<u></u>)<br>
2. Re: problem with iterations?? (<u></u>Marion
Hiller<u></u>)<br>
3. Re: Converging error (<u></u>hotline<u></u>)<br>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:04:24 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Karol, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I noticed
from your listing (*.lst) file that your working directory is located on your
computer's desktop directory. This is not recommended due to the potential
issues with the Windows OS system and write privleges. I would first try
changing your working directory to the ".\MyProjects" directory or in
a folder right on the "C:" drive. I am not certain that this is the
issue with the TRNEXE, but if the problem persists, please contact your
distributor, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com">techsupport@tess-inc.com</a>.
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Best
regards, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<u></u>Matt Duffy<u></u> <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">On
2012-09-27 03:46, Karol Bandurski wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear All, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I try to simulate
dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and
ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature
depending on time of day. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">When I run my
yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even
no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Only think what
appear (many times) in .lst file is <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Notice: More than
6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I will be grateful
for any advice! <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I enclose .lst
file. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Regards, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Karol Bandurski
MSc. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:53:53 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Karol,</span></font> <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In general the notice has nothing to do with a
frozen TRNEXE.exe,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">it is just an information.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">The message indicates that the internal
controller for turning on the </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">integrated heating/cooling has convergence
problems and a deadband is applied to promote convergence.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This may be the case at the moment of turning ON
or OFF something.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">After 6 internal iterations a deadband is added
to promote convergence.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">If the convergence isn’t reached after 12
iterations a warning is written to the lst/log file.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Regards,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27.
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] problem
with iterations??</span></font> <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Dear
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">I
try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for
window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set
temperature depending on time of day.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">When
I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There
is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Only
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Notice:
More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">I
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Karol
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition
settings:</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1- TAMB</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27.
September 2012 11:49<br>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear all,<br>
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I met a converging error when I changed simulation time step 1 hour into 0.1
hour or 0.2 hour or 0.01 hour as follows:<br>
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*** Fatal Error at time : 3972.000000<br>
Generated by Unit
: 56<br>
Generated by Type
: 56<br>
Message
: outside temperature of 2(external) wall in zone
1at time 3972.00 not converged!<br>
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Please tell me some possible solutions for that if you know. The attached is
its Listing File.<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
Br.<br>
<br>
wang<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Doctoral Fellowships at TERI University, India <u></u><u></u>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:46:49 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Dear
All, </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I try
to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window
opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set
temperature depending on time of day. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is
even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Only
think what appear (many times) in .lst file is </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Notice:
More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I will
be grateful for any advice! </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I
enclose .lst file. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv4942238MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Regards,
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