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    Karol,<br>
      Without knowing the specifics of which data file you are using,
    its hard to give a definitive answer. My understanding is that the
    original set of TMY2 weather files are a series of files that were
    developed at NREL for 230 or so sites in the US based on something
    called the Solmet data base. Only 30 sites actually had measured
    data; the rest were modeled, correlated, statistically processed,
    etc. The original set of TMY2 data files for those US cities should
    not, I think, be confused with the use of the TMY2 file format for
    weather files from other cities.<br>
    <br>
      As for your other question, there is no particular need to create
    a file that has the TMY2 format if you don't want to. Type9 is
    designed to read an interpolate data files. Radiation data read by
    Type9 can then be passed to Type16 for processing and calculation of
    radiation falling on other surfaces. This saves you the trouble of
    having to figure out where to obtain data values for the fields that
    you don't need in the TMY2 format. Type15 (the weather
    reader/processor) is really just a combination of Type9 and Type16
    glued together internally and given the ability to read a series of
    standard file formats (TMY, TMY2, TMY3, E+, etc.)<br>
    Kind regards,<br>
     David<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/18/2012 05:22, Karol Bandurski
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">1)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have already converted TYM2 data for
          Poznan (PL-Poznan-Lawica-123300) from text file to excel
          using: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/weather/tmy2data.htm">http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/weather/tmy2data.htm</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Some of meteorological data, which are
          there, have additional columns named <i>Flag of Data Source</i>.
          Dry bulb temperature is one of these data. In my file is
          written that <b><u>data source for dry bub temperature is</u></b>
          E, and in TYM2 manual (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/pubs/tmy2/PDFs/tmy2man.pdf">http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/pubs/tmy2/PDFs/tmy2man.pdf</a>)
          I have read that it means:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"">Modeled or estimated, except:
            precipitable water, calculated from<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"">radiosonde data; dew point
            temperature calculated from dry bulb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"">temperature and relative
            humidity; and relative humidity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"">calculated from dry bulb
            temperature and dew point temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Could you explain me what it is mean? I
            expected that temperature is measured…<o:p></o:p></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>The second issue</u></b> is that I
          would like to create my own TYM2 file to run TRNSYS simulation
          with my own meteorological data. How should I model e.g.
          illuminance… of maybe I don’t need this value if I use in
          simulation only:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Dry bulb temperature,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Effective sky
          temperature,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Humidity,<o:p></o:p></p>
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          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Wind velocity and
          direction,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Atmospheric pressure,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Solar zenith and
          azimuth angle,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Total surface
          radiation,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Beam surface radiation,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Angle of incidence for
          surface,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
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            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Ground reflectance.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Which data (columns) do I need in TYM2
            file to get above values?<o:p></o:p></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I will be grateful for any tips!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Karol Bandurski MSc.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white" lang="PL"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/"
              target="_top"><span
                style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"
                lang="EN-US">Institute of Environmental Engineering</span></a></span><span
            style="background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white">Poznan
            University of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white" lang="PL"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ee.put.poznan.pl/"><span
                lang="EN-US">www.ee.put.poznan.pl</span></a></span><span
            style="background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white" lang="PL"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.put.poznan.pl/">www.put.poznan.pl</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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