<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Thanks Waseem, <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It is not about a specific weather file. <br></span></div><div><span>I'm developing my own weather model reader and processor in Simulink. I have used results from E+ to verify my model but seems to be off at some times . So, I used TRNSYS _16, TYPE 15 to determine the solar radiation on south vertical surface using Perez model and compared that to my Simulink and E+ results. I figured that TYPE 15 interpolates the weather file (even at 1 hour time step) and therefore can't use it for verification. I was expecting that TYPE15 will read the weather file without interpolation when time step is 1 hr. Is there a way with
this type or others to get the values at the beginning (or end ) of each hour rather than interpolating values at the mid of the hour?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Thanks,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Saleh <br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
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2. Re: Fwd: Converging error (hotline)<br>
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Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:38:45 -0700 (PDT)<br>Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Weather Data Reader Type15<br><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;"><div>Dear user, <br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">I'm trying to extract some weather data from TRNSYS -16 after reading and processing EPW file using Pereze model (time step 1 hr). I have noticed that this TYPE interpolates the variables including the air temperature. Is there a way to extract the data without interpolation using this type or others?</div>
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regards,</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Saleh ALSaadi <br></div></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:21:53 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Fwd: Converging error<br>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Ok. Please always include
the TRNSYS release number .<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br>
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Default values NEED to be
adapted to your data!<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data,
this Error disappeared! <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">As I mentioned previous,
there must be an error in your data file. Link the outputs to the online/printer
for checking<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">4) Yes</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">, The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building </span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">now</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> for my simulation.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB">, <u></u><u></u></span>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">For a successive method
all input data types should be placed at the beginning. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Check the component order
and rearrange it.<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 10. Oktober
2012 13:37<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <u></u>hotline<u></u><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> trnsys-users<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Fwd: Converging error</span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear Marion,<br>
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Many thanks for your patient reply!<br>
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1) I use TRNSYS 16, there is no TSGRD in TYPE 56.<br>
2) The height over sea level of Default is 0 m I used.<br>
3) You are right. I tried to use *.tm2 weather data, this Error disappeared!
But my Userdefined weather data is <font color="#3333ff"><span style="color:#3333ff;">TRN/TRY weather data</span></font>. Why does it result in
aforementioned Errors (Converging error by my past emails)? <br>
If I must use our own<font color="#3333ff"><span style="color:#3333ff;"> TRN/TRY
weather data</span></font>, how to avoid this Converging error?<br>
4) Yes</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">, The data reader Type 9
is placed after the building </span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">now</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> for my simulation.</span></font>, Do you mean
Type 9 should be placed before the Building Type 56? Is Better?<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
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Br.<br>
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wang<u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">2012/10/10 <u></u>hotline<u></u> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hotline@transsolar.com">hotline@transsolar.com</a>><u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Dear Wang,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">there are several issues within your simulation
concerning the outside longwave exchange of external surfaces</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">You didn’t connect
TSGRD such that it is set 0 => If you have no information set it Tamb</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">2.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">For Sky temperature
calculation with Type 69, you forgot to enter the height above sea level. </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">3.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">You read the ambient
temperature and the relative air humditiy from a userdefined file by type 9 <br>
instead of using the data from the weather file. <br>
This file wasn’t attached, but it might be an error source especially
when interpolating incorrect data.<br>
For testing, please use the ambient temperature and rel. humidity from the
assigned weather file throughout your simulation.<br>
Please check your userdefined data and the outputs of Type 9 WITHOUT connecting
them to TYPE 56.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">4.)</span></font><font color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition, please check
the component order. The data reader Type 9 is placed after the building.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 8. Oktober 2012
15:31<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu">trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu</a>;
<u></u>hotline<u></u><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Fwd: Converging error</span></font>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear Marion and TRNSYS Users,<br>
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Thanks for your reply!<br>
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I checked all you mentioned, I can't find any special/abnormal settings. Furthermore,
it runs well when the time step is 1 hour. For other steps e.g. 0.1 h, 0.2 h or
0.5 h, it appears that ERROR.<br>
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Please help me have a look at the attached project if you are free.<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
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br.<br>
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wang <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1- TAMB</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">4- TSGRD</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">outside
emissitive is ≤ 1</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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convective heat transfer coefficient ist set to reasonable value</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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1. Re: problem with iterations?? (<u></u>Matt
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2. Re: problem with iterations?? (<u></u>Marion
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:04:24 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Karol, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I noticed
from your listing (*.lst) file that your working directory is located on your
computer's desktop directory. This is not recommended due to the potential
issues with the Windows OS system and write privleges. I would first try
changing your working directory to the ".\MyProjects" directory or in
a folder right on the "C:" drive. I am not certain that this is the
issue with the TRNEXE, but if the problem persists, please contact your
distributor, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:techsupport@tess-inc.com">techsupport@tess-inc.com</a>.
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Best
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">On
2012-09-27 03:46, Karol Bandurski wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear All, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I try to simulate
dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window opening and
ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set temperature
depending on time of day. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">When I run my
yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is even
no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Only think what
appear (many times) in .lst file is <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Notice: More than
6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I will be grateful
for any advice! <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I enclose .lst
file. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Regards, <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Karol Bandurski
MSc. <u></u><u></u></span></font>
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Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Karol,</span></font> <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In general the notice has nothing to do with a
frozen TRNEXE.exe,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">it is just an information.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">The message indicates that the internal
controller for turning on the </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">integrated heating/cooling has convergence
problems and a deadband is applied to promote convergence.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This may be the case at the moment of turning ON
or OFF something.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">After 6 internal iterations a deadband is added
to promote convergence.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">If the convergence isn’t reached after 12
iterations a warning is written to the lst/log file.</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Regards,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27.
September 2012 10:47<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] problem
with iterations??</span></font> <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Dear
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">I
try to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for
window opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set
temperature depending on time of day.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">When
I run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There
is even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Only
think what appear (many times) in .lst file is</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Notice:
More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">I
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;" lang="EN-US">Karol
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:02:00 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Converging error <u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">This problem may occur from incorrect ambient condition
settings:</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Please check the following inputs of Type 56 </span></font><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">1- TAMB</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">In addition make sure that in the BUI file the surface</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">outside
convective heat transfer coefficient ist set to reasonable value</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">If the error presits, we need the complete project to give
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 27.
September 2012 11:49<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> [TRNSYS-users] Converging
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear all,<br>
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I met a converging error when I changed simulation time step 1 hour into 0.1
hour or 0.2 hour or 0.01 hour as follows:<br>
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*** Fatal Error at time : 3972.000000<br>
Generated by Unit
: 56<br>
Generated by Type
: 56<br>
Message
: outside temperature of 2(external) wall in zone
1at time 3972.00 not converged!<br>
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Please tell me some possible solutions for that if you know. The attached is
its Listing File.<br>
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Many thanks in advance!<br>
Br.<br>
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wang<u></u><u></u></span></font>
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Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Doctoral Fellowships at TERI University, India <u></u><u></u>
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currently inviting applications for Doctoral programmes in
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2013. A range of scholarship opportunities are also available for
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From: "Karol Bandurski" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl" target="_blank" href="mailto:karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl">karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl</a>><br>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:46:49 +0200<br>
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] problem with iterations?? <u></u><u></u>
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All, </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I try
to simulate dwelling with natural ventilation. I set some algorithm for window
opening and ideal heating for colder part of year for each zone with set
temperature depending on time of day. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">When I
run my yearly simulation it stop in one moment and TRNEXE is frozen... There is
even no error! Then I can only turn off TRNEXE. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Only
think what appear (many times) in .lst file is </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Notice:
More than 6 iterations for internal regulation HEATING/COOLING. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I will
be grateful for any advice! </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">I
enclose .lst file. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Regards,
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<div class="yiv1323580695MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">Karol
Bandurski MSc. </span><u></u><u></u></font>
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